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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #100 on: September 14, 2010, 06:41:15 PM »
Is this a word?

I don't think it's a word.

But it makes perfect sense. Is it OK for academic authors to make up words like that if they want to?
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« Reply #101 on: September 14, 2010, 06:53:03 PM »
It's a word.  Or at least more than one academic author uses it.

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« Reply #102 on: September 14, 2010, 07:04:23 PM »
Is it synonymous with appropriateness, then? Merriam-Webster didn't think it was a word.
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« Reply #103 on: September 14, 2010, 07:15:29 PM »
As far as I can tell, yes.  If it's supposed to have some slightly different connotation I don't know what it is.

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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #104 on: September 14, 2010, 07:24:16 PM »
Is this a word?

I guess that depends on what your definition of word is.

Merriam-Webster didn't think it was a word.

Not having an entry for a word isn't the same as not thinking that it's a word. Is it a word that many people use? Apparently not, because it gets 50,000 Google hits compared to 35,000,000 for appropriateness.
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« Reply #105 on: September 15, 2010, 01:08:42 AM »
I think if there's not a nuanced difference in meaning between two words that are the same word except for choice of morpheme, we don't need two of them.

But there goes the prescriptivist devil on my shoulder again.
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« Reply #106 on: September 15, 2010, 07:43:12 AM »
I have a prescriptivist imp.
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« Reply #107 on: September 27, 2010, 04:33:01 PM »
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Should "the" be capitalized for The New York Times?

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« Reply #108 on: September 27, 2010, 04:34:56 PM »
Traditionally, initial articles in the names of periodicals are neither capitalized nor italicized (though articles in book titles get both—don't ask me why). So it's the New York Times but The Chicago Manual of Style.
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« Reply #109 on: September 27, 2010, 06:40:59 PM »
The leading manual on legal citation (which I've mentioned before but will re-mention for convenience), the Blue Book:  A Uniform System of Citation, states in rule 8 that you should capitalize in headings/titles, but defer to the Chicago Manual of Style or Government Printing Office Style Manual when it's not a heading or title.
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« Reply #110 on: September 27, 2010, 06:43:52 PM »
I routinely capitalize "Hell."  Are there instances where I shouldn't?

And, should I ever capitalize "Heaven" ?  When—the same rules that apply to "Hell" apply to "Heaven" ?
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« Reply #111 on: September 27, 2010, 06:57:57 PM »
They're both typically lowercased. That's what both Chicago and the LDS Church style guide say, at any rate.
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« Reply #112 on: September 27, 2010, 08:40:54 PM »
Well, The New York Times capitalizes the "The" in their name.  They don't call themselves "New York Times", it's "The New York Times".  It's right there on their masthead.
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« Reply #113 on: September 27, 2010, 08:51:23 PM »
Well, like so many things, this is a stylistic issues, and styles vary.
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« Reply #114 on: September 27, 2010, 09:41:04 PM »
I'd go with Chicago but not necessarily the LDS church since we don't believe in heaven and hell, per se.  I've never seen a translation of the Bible where they were capitalized, but again, LDS.

When I was a little girl I had a non LDS bible because they hadn't come out with them yet.  But I only remember the words of Jesus were in red.
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« Reply #115 on: September 27, 2010, 09:52:32 PM »
Did the Romans speak in italics or Times New Roman?  Did the Egyptians speak in Papyrus?
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« Reply #116 on: September 27, 2010, 10:02:18 PM »
I'd go with Chicago but not necessarily the LDS church since we don't believe in heaven and hell, per se.  I've never seen a translation of the Bible where they were capitalized, but again, LDS.

But in this regard they're the same. Also, the LDS Church style guide doesn't capitalize celestial kingdom either, so it's not a matter of what we believe in. And strangely, the LDS edition of the scriptures does not follow Church style at all. For example, Church style capitalizes deity pronouns and a host of other things that the scriptures don't.
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« Reply #117 on: September 27, 2010, 10:03:02 PM »
Did the Romans speak in italics or Times New Roman?  Did the Egyptians speak in Papyrus?

I'm not going to dignify that with an answer. :p
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« Reply #118 on: September 27, 2010, 10:10:41 PM »
I have a feeling that once Jesse realizes he could have been playing with fonts all this time, he's going to take to it with a vengeance, to catch up.
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« Reply #119 on: September 27, 2010, 10:28:19 PM »
The Romans wrote, at least, in Trajan. As in, they made the font from the actual Roman writing on Trajan's column. So Trajan is totally legit.

Also, I am sorry to hear that Hell is not capitalized. I'll have to have a chat with my students:

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« Reply #120 on: September 27, 2010, 11:07:20 PM »
I have a feeling that once Jesse realizes he could have been playing with fonts all this time, he's going to take to it with a vengeance, to catch up.

And I will hold you personally responsible. :pirate:
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« Reply #121 on: September 27, 2010, 11:08:40 PM »
He's a playful guy and I, for one, am delighted by his puckish insouciance.
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« Reply #122 on: September 28, 2010, 01:09:53 AM »
I'm not going to dignify that with an answer. :p
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« Reply #123 on: September 28, 2010, 12:50:01 PM »
Traditionally, initial articles in the names of periodicals are neither capitalized nor italicized (though articles in book titles get both—don't ask me why). So it's the New York Times but The Chicago Manual of Style.

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« Reply #124 on: September 29, 2010, 07:19:27 AM »
I think if there's not a nuanced difference in meaning between two words that are the same word except for choice of morpheme, we don't need two of them.

But there goes the prescriptivist devil on my shoulder again.
Sure, you don't need them. 

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