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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1250 on: May 07, 2013, 04:27:37 PM »
"The logic is deeply embedded in the code."

Hey, it's a legitimate statement :P In some systems the business logic is heavily driven by something outside the code, such as a rules engine, or is modular and flexible so that business logic changes are easy, while in others the business logic is pervasive throughout the code, meaning it isn't easy to change.

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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1251 on: September 04, 2013, 10:29:18 AM »
The job-training manuals I'm working on are written in a very odd sort of first person with a lot of imperatives (which are technically second person), like "Share my resume with a partner." I thought those were weird, but this one threw me for a loop:

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Networking means contacting people I know who can either help me get a job directly or lead me to someone else for more information. It is the most effective way to find a job. In fact, a recent survey found that nearly 75% of jobs are found through networking. (It makes me wonder why anyone would spend much time job searching in any other way!) Often I have to network several layers deep to get real results.

When I hit the sentence in parentheses, I thought, "Wait—who's speaking? The workshop participant who doesn't know anything about networking and has never done it before?" Most of the other first-person stuff is clearly meant to refer to the participant, but it doesn't really make sense to read that part that way.
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« Reply #1252 on: September 04, 2013, 11:24:38 AM »
Are you supposed to keep it in that weird first person?
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« Reply #1253 on: September 04, 2013, 11:40:33 AM »
We've been changing it to the second person for the most part, though I left a couple of those in the first where it seemed like it was the facilitator, not the participants, speaking.
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« Reply #1254 on: September 10, 2013, 09:35:08 PM »
"I don’t think it should be something that should be completely everything."
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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1255 on: September 11, 2013, 08:19:06 AM »
Truer words were never spoken.
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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1256 on: September 26, 2013, 12:33:46 PM »
I caught a bogus etymology (or at least a bogus definition) in something I was reviewing. It was in a passage explicating the term "put on Christ" in Galatians 3:27. It said that the Greek word translated as "put on" is enduo, which means "to endow." Then it added that it means to clothe oneself or to symbolically put something on.

But it doesn't mean "endow"; it means "clothe". Endow means "give". This isn't the first time I've seen this connection between enduo and endow, so I did a little more digging and found this article from BYU law professor John Welch. He conflates endow, endue, and enduo in a very muddled explanation of the endowment ceremony. As far as I can tell, all three words are distinct, though I'm not sure if endue and enduo are really unrelated. They both mean "clothe", but one comes from Latin and the other from Greek.

Welch cites Noah Webster, who was a crap etymologist, but not a real etymological dictionary like the OED, which would have clearly explained that endow and endue come from different roots but have been conflated to some degree for centuries. And then he cites Joseph Smith, who used enduement and endowment interchangeably in his writings. Uh, no offense, but Joseph Smith had only a third-grade education and was not exactly a great speller. It's not surprising that he confused two words that the OED says were frequently confused.

I wonder how many people read that article by Welch and believed it all because he's a Mormon academic superstar who studied Latin and Greek, so obviously he must know what he's talking about. Stuff like that really irritates me.
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« Reply #1257 on: September 26, 2013, 02:59:08 PM »
So what did you do?  Do you have the authority to get that changed, or do you just have to grit your teeth and endure it?

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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1258 on: September 26, 2013, 03:24:40 PM »
It wasn't actually my document, so I let the editor know. I explained the problem to her, but I'm afraid that she won't see it as a problem and will let it through. If it had been my document, I would have simply deleted the part saying that enduo means "to endow".
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« Reply #1259 on: September 26, 2013, 06:31:34 PM »
...or do you just have to grit your teeth and endure it?

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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1260 on: September 27, 2013, 10:20:55 AM »
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« Reply #1261 on: September 30, 2013, 06:54:35 PM »
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I have a sillybus and student guide which I created. 

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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1262 on: September 30, 2013, 07:15:11 PM »
Don't laugh at the sillybus, Rivka. It's a very serious sillybus.
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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1263 on: October 09, 2013, 11:06:46 AM »
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For example, water changes state when it freezes—it becomes ice. If you are making a cake, the batter changes state when it is baked and becomes a cake.

*sigh*

Someone didn't pay much attention in chemistry class. Granted, this is just a dumb Powerpoint slide full of management speak, not a science lesson, but it still irks me.
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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1264 on: October 09, 2013, 11:31:53 AM »
I changed state when I moved from Georgia to New Jersey.
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« Reply #1265 on: October 09, 2013, 12:13:46 PM »
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For example, water changes state when it freezes—it becomes ice. If you are making a cake, the batter changes state when it is baked and becomes a cake.

*sigh*

Someone didn't pay much attention in chemistry class. Granted, this is just a dumb Powerpoint slide full of management speak, not a science lesson, but it still irks me.
UGH. Baking a cake is often an example given of something that is NOT a change of state, but a chemical change. My guess is the slidemaker vaguely remembers the lesson, but has screwed up which examples go with what because they never really got the idea.
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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1266 on: October 09, 2013, 01:30:07 PM »
Probably. It's not like it's that difficult to grasp, though.
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« Reply #1267 on: October 09, 2013, 02:37:49 PM »
Agreed.
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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1268 on: October 09, 2013, 05:42:33 PM »
The states of matter: batter, cake, ash.
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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1269 on: October 10, 2013, 09:39:24 AM »
I was thinking batter, cake, nap.
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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1270 on: October 10, 2013, 06:07:53 PM »
I changed state when I moved from Georgia to New Jersey.
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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1271 on: October 10, 2013, 09:16:09 PM »
There was a popular song some years ago, "She Drives Me Crazy", and I changed the lyrics so that they were about that movie:

He drives Miss Daisy -- ooh-ooh
And no one else -- ooh-ooh
He drives Miss Daisy
'Cause she can't drive herself.
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« Reply #1272 on: October 20, 2013, 08:41:32 PM »
 :D
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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1273 on: October 25, 2013, 08:44:57 AM »
I work on a software project that has been around for decades.

Part of it was written back in the DOS days when you were limited to an 8-character filename plus a 3-character extension, so there was a lot of abbreviating in order to pack as much info into a few characters.  This sort of abbreviation became embedded in the company culture and continued long after it was no longer necessary.

This is especially humorous when dealing with the "Analysis" code.  Here are some of the labels dealing with analysis:

AnalDim
AnalView
AnalWin
AnalWinControlWrapper
ANAL_DIM_LIST
ANAL_VIEW_OPTIONS
ANAL_VIEW_PROF_OPTIONS
ANAL_VIEW_SHOW_OPTIONS
ANAL_VIEW_SIZE_OPTIONS
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Re: Quotes from work
« Reply #1274 on: October 25, 2013, 09:17:01 AM »
 :D
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