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« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2005, 12:46:31 PM »
brownie points for the first one to get the reference...
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« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2005, 12:48:08 PM »
Boy meets world!!!!

(The episode when Feeny's neice comes to visit him and asks Eric to take her out)
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« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2005, 12:52:53 PM »
close, but not quite.
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« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2005, 12:54:00 PM »
Oh man. Wait, is it the one when they're in Boston?  
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« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2005, 12:55:11 PM »
It's the one where they are in the future celebrating Feeny's retirement.
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« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2005, 12:56:16 PM »
Did someone just reverse the polarity in here?
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« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2005, 01:01:50 PM »
FEEnay!  Fee-hee-he*coughgag* woah, I can't do this anymore...
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« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2005, 02:16:46 PM »
I love it when Eric does the FEEnay! Fee-hee-hee-NAY.  
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"Doctor, I've taken your sister under my protection here. If anything happens to her, anything at all, I swear to you: I will get very choked up. Honestly. There might even be tears."

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« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2005, 02:47:35 PM »
Getting back to Processes, Latin nouns come in declensions not conjugations.  But there are five declensions.  I was only really familiar with the first three, which were basically Fminine ending in a, masculine ending in us, and Neuter ending in um.  

About.com informs me that 4th declension is ending in us, but with a u root instead.  Manus, hand, is such a word.  The plural posessive (genitive) is mannum instead of *manorum.  

5th declension ends in es.  Fides, Spes, Res are all 5th declension nouns.  I can't believe I forgot that.
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« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2005, 03:04:58 PM »
Oops, thats what I meant when I said conjugation.
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"This is the Captain. We have a slight problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some turbulence and then... explode."

"Doctor, I've taken your sister under my protection here. If anything happens to her, anything at all, I swear to you: I will get very choked up. Honestly. There might even be tears."

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« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2005, 04:41:10 PM »
Although I have been informed that it is acceptable, I do not like "preventative".  I much, much prefer "preventive".
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« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2005, 07:15:19 PM »
The extra syllable probably has something to do with wanting to preserve the stress pattern of prevent despite trisyllabic shortening.  I'll have to think it through.  No, I guess that doesn't make sense.
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« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2005, 09:29:17 PM »
Almost as bad as orientate and disorientate. GAH!
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« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2005, 09:40:37 PM »
Oh no! An extra syllable! It's the end of educated English as we know it!

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« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2005, 09:41:40 PM »
Too many syllalables!
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« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2005, 09:42:20 PM »
Syllabybles?
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« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2005, 09:43:13 PM »
Sylylables.
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« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2005, 09:50:05 PM »
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The extra syllable probably has something to do with wanting to preserve the stress pattern of prevent despite trisyllabic shortening.  I'll have to think it through.  No, I guess that doesn't make sense.
Actually, the extra syllable has to do with misapprehending Latin morphology. These words were coined after trisyllabic shortening had done its work. Trisyllabic shortening was an entirely different sort of process, anyway.
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« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2005, 09:57:29 PM »
I guess I've forgotten what trisyllabic shortening is.  I thought it was when photograph becomes phoTAWgraphy.  Psychology==>psychoLAWgical and so forth.  Is that just antepenultimate stress, plain and simple?
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« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2005, 10:26:05 PM »
Yeah, that's just antepenultimate stress. It's a feature of most Latinate words.

Trisyllabic shortening is when the a syllable is shortened when a suffix was added, making that syllable the ante-antepenultimate syllable (third syllable back). So that gives word pairs like divine (unshortened and later diphthongized) and divinity (shortened). Here are a few more. I believe this phonological process happened around the 1400s.
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« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2005, 04:45:59 PM »
Can we complain about spelling here?

If I see one more person type "coersion" instead of coercion I am going to scream.  :blink:  
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« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2005, 05:01:41 PM »
I'm probably guilty of that, ain't I?
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« Reply #72 on: October 16, 2005, 05:07:37 PM »
I didn't notice you doing it, Porter, but I'm pretty sure your wife did. :)
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« Reply #73 on: October 16, 2005, 05:08:00 PM »
Oh, I *know* I'm guilty.  And I don't feel bad in the least.  :P

O'course, I'm done writing any form of the word for now.
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« Reply #74 on: October 16, 2005, 05:13:14 PM »
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