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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #225 on: July 23, 2011, 07:52:10 PM »
Why would there need to be an established rule?

And if somebody has tried to establish one, they can stick it in their ear!
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I don't think it matters at all. And some people would agree that it doesn't matter but would still recommend consistency. I don't think I'm even consistent.
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« Reply #226 on: July 24, 2011, 09:49:37 AM »
For the Sake of searchability, I think titles should never begin with "The" and should probably begin with a memorable keyword.
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #227 on: July 25, 2011, 11:11:41 AM »
*resists urge to edit thread titles to confounde Jess(i?)e.*
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #228 on: July 25, 2011, 11:29:49 AM »
Jesse.

Jessie is the spelling for girls. Unless you're Rick Springfield who, apparently, was confused about the gendered spellings of the name and also the appropriateness of using the word "moot" in pop lyrics just because it rhymes with "cute."
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« Reply #229 on: July 25, 2011, 11:58:39 AM »
Given that I couldn't remember which it was, I figured the safer router was to to acknowledge/apologize for my ignorance rather than have a 50% of offending by simply getting it wrong.
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« Reply #230 on: July 25, 2011, 08:31:43 PM »
I'm not mad at you at all. Just Rick Springfield. Mostly for him creating that song so it could get stuck in my head.
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #231 on: July 26, 2011, 12:16:56 PM »
Instead of saying "no i," I like to instruct people (generally over the phone) that my name is spelt just as it is in the Bible.

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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #232 on: July 26, 2011, 12:26:13 PM »
that my name is spelt just as it is in the Bible.
Which is fairly nonsensical, since you don't actually spell it in Hebrew 99% of the time.
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #233 on: July 26, 2011, 12:38:18 PM »
Seems pretty sensical to me, since most of the people he'd be saying that to are not Jews and thus would not think of the Hebrew Bible. :p
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« Reply #234 on: July 26, 2011, 12:44:54 PM »
Generally when I mention the Tolstoy character, for instance, I don't write it Анна Каренина.
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« Reply #235 on: July 26, 2011, 01:40:22 PM »
Seems pretty sensical to me, since most of the people he'd be saying that to are not Jews and thus would not think of the Hebrew Bible. :p
Except he has used it me and Esther. Multiple times.
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #236 on: July 26, 2011, 02:04:47 PM »
But did you actually think that Jesse was saying that his name is Yishay, spelled יִשַׁי?
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« Reply #237 on: July 26, 2011, 03:16:25 PM »
No. But neither did I glean the meaning he wanted, because I frequently don't know the English spellings/translations of biblical names without looking them up.
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #238 on: July 26, 2011, 03:47:12 PM »
Fair enough.

And of course, since Jesse talked about the "savory moment of confusion and awkwardness", I think we can safely assume that communicating clearly was not his primary goal. ;)
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« Reply #239 on: July 26, 2011, 04:10:14 PM »
I think we can safely assume that communicating clearly was not his primary goal. ;)
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« Reply #240 on: July 27, 2011, 08:43:13 AM »
The biblical thing sticks for me, though I believe he once told me "like David's dad".
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« Reply #241 on: July 28, 2011, 08:21:34 AM »
A savory moment of confusion and awkwardness often ensues.
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #242 on: August 14, 2011, 11:37:02 AM »
I was just reading a New Yorker article and they used a trema in the word reëlection. I knew about its use in French but until today was utterly unaware that we could use it similarly in English. How common is this?
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #243 on: August 14, 2011, 01:48:19 PM »
As far as I know, the New Yorker is the only place in the entire English-speaking world where you will still find that practice, though apparently it was common once.

And just so you know, the English word for that diacritical mark is diaeresis.
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« Reply #244 on: August 14, 2011, 04:21:14 PM »
The English word for the mark is trema - it's used in this situation for diaeresis rather than for umlaut.
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #245 on: August 14, 2011, 04:31:07 PM »
Well, I'm in the English-speaking world, and I use it. But then again, I also use semicolons, so I'm hardly typical.
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #246 on: August 14, 2011, 04:34:41 PM »
I've never heard it called a trema in English, and the OED doesn't even have an entry for it.
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #247 on: August 14, 2011, 04:52:50 PM »
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #248 on: August 14, 2011, 05:01:15 PM »
A poorly sourced Wikipedia article is your proof? :p
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Re: Dear Expert
« Reply #249 on: August 14, 2011, 05:02:07 PM »
There are enough people calling it that for that to be the name of the wikipedia article.

And you call yourself a descriptivist? :p
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