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« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2005, 03:28:53 PM »
Somebody doesn't want to just come out and say the product sucks.

Either that or they couldn't afford the product because they're going under, but he doesn't want to admit it.
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« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2005, 03:32:44 PM »
Everything from this respondent is like that. It's like the words start coming out before she's actually figured out what she's saying. There are filler words aplenty, too, so it makes me think she just has a hard time getting her thought together and getting them out coherently.

This is someone from Barnes & Noble Inc., so I doubt they're going under. ;)  
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« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2005, 05:36:49 PM »
That surprises me that a business professional would talk like that.  Didn't they learn specificity and brevity as a college freshman?
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« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2005, 08:10:29 PM »
It makes sense to me . . . it's someone changing directions in midstride. This is a transcript of something spoken?

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« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2005, 09:50:08 PM »
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Didn't they learn specificity and brevity as a college freshman?
How many college sophomores do you know that write with specificity and brevity?
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« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2005, 08:16:06 AM »
Furthermore, how many business professionals do you know who speak with specificity and brevity?
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« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2005, 08:37:08 AM »
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It makes sense to me . . . it's someone changing directions in midstride. This is a transcript of something spoken?
Yup. Changing directions midstride isn't too bad. But changing directions every stride? That becomes a little harder to follow.
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« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2005, 09:42:41 AM »
Some more gems from that interview that made me laugh:
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And I guess, somehow, if they were able to prove that they have done exactly what we do and that they do, and that they are…you know, provide innovative solutions in a stable environment without…you know, it’s hard for me to say.
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If I have to explain it five times until they get it, then that is a problem, and that is what we kind of experienced. We were looking for a partner that would get it the first time, you know, that could answer, that could finish our sentences, basically.
Yeah, it'd be nice if someone finished your sentences.
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« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2005, 01:05:18 PM »
Ah, so it's a transcript of somebody BS-ing!  :D

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« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2005, 01:12:42 PM »
Pretty much. She was so vague and repeated herself so much that I really wondered if she had any idea what she was talking about.
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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2005, 11:11:09 AM »
My current pet peeve (well, one of them, anyway), is the overuse and misuse of the prefix non-. I just read something that talked about the "noncomplexity" of a piece of software. I often see people referring to "nonbiased" opinions. And in a similar vein, two or three times I've read about someone "deinstalling" a piece of software.
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« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2005, 11:26:23 AM »
To be fair, there are so many negating prefixes in English that it can get really confusing. How many are there?

non-, un-, in-, a-, de-

I'm sure there are others.
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« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2005, 11:28:18 AM »
Are there really any rules about when to use which ones, besides the difference in meanings?

Really -- why is uninstall correct but deinstall is wrong?

Edit:  to add the word really once more time.
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« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2005, 11:39:36 AM »
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Are there really any rules about when to use which ones, besides the difference in meanings?
Yes and no. Different prefixes have different origins. Un- comes from Old English, while in- comes from Latin. However, un- is used with plenty of Latinate words, like install. There is a pretty wide range of meaning, though, even though you can classify all those prefixes as negatives.

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Really -- why is uninstall correct but deinstall is wrong?
The simple answer is that uninstall is the form that's accepted as correct. One is in the dictionary, and the other is not. But regardless of why it's incorrect, the fact is that it is incorrect.
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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2005, 11:42:09 AM »
It is very common for me to use the prefix non in non-accepted ways.

(It wasn't until I was finished with that sentence that I realized that it was an example. >.<)
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« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2005, 11:43:09 AM »
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To be fair, there are so many negating prefixes in English that it can get really confusing. How many are there?

non-, un-, in-, a-, de-

I'm sure there are others.
Don't forget contra-/counter-, anti-, dis-, ex- and probably a whole bunch of others. Just because they're all negating prefixes doesn't mean they're used the same way or mean the same thing, though.
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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2005, 11:43:58 AM »
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It is very common for me to use the prefix non in non-accepted ways.

(It wasn't until I was finished with that sentence that I realized that it was an example. >.<)
Then you're part of the problem. :pirate:

Here you go, Porter.
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« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2005, 11:59:49 AM »
Ah, yes. I also forgot ir- and im-.
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« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2005, 12:00:15 PM »
I got a 100%. :P
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« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2005, 12:00:43 PM »
Are all of these prefixes double-plus ungood?
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« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2005, 12:02:58 PM »
I thought it was areligious. I'm totally ashamed now.

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« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2005, 12:03:56 PM »
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Ah, yes. I also forgot ir- and im-.
Those are just phonetically conditioned allomorps of in-.
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« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2005, 12:06:53 PM »
Woah!  So did I, Ruth.  I guess I didn't get a 100%.
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« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2005, 12:08:26 PM »
Your mom is a phonetically conditioned allomorph of in-!
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« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2005, 12:10:18 PM »
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An allomorph is one of two or more complementary morphs which manifest a morpheme in its different phonological or morphological environments.

>.<

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