Author Topic: Words that you can never, ever say right (Read 14303 times)

Leto II · « **Reply #25 on:** August 15, 2005, 03:42:35 PM »

I generally do too. That's exactly what I'm talking about: Rs and Ls that other people don't pronounce, I generally do.

Jaiden · « **Reply #26 on:** August 15, 2005, 10:40:52 PM »

Testosterone.

*Shudders*

And nuclear. I admit it. I used to be able to say it correctly. Than the whole "nuc-u-lear" "nuclear" thing came up and I now always say it wrong

Porter · « **Reply #27 on:** August 16, 2005, 07:26:38 AM »

As long as you don't say "supposably".

Marianne Dashwood · « **Reply #28 on:** August 18, 2005, 04:03:06 PM »

Rire. Kills me everytime.

As far as my native language, however, I'm so smooth I never mess up.

pattyshmack · « **Reply #29 on:** August 18, 2005, 05:20:50 PM »

if you want to hear some sickening pronunciations, visit southern utah. You hear some greats such as,"take the pitcher off the wall." "let's go to the mou-en" and, "I'm goink to the store."

Jono · « **Reply #30 on:** August 18, 2005, 06:50:35 PM »

scottneb · « **Reply #31 on:** August 18, 2005, 07:57:56 PM »

That's my specious little sister.

Jono · « **Reply #32 on:** August 18, 2005, 08:01:37 PM »

Oh, sure, Porter deletes his post and leaves mine hanging there.

I guess I assumed it was your wife. I couldn't remember your wife's name, but I saw that pattyshmack was a neb.

I have to admit that all those pronunciations bug me, but especially the last one. It's bad enough to pronounce a g that shouldn't be pronounced, but then to turn it into a k . . . *shudder*

pattyshmack · « **Reply #33 on:** August 18, 2005, 08:05:33 PM »

yeah it's almost like,"oh, I am just so cute so I am goink to talk like I have a low IQ!" What-ever.

Porter · « **Reply #34 on:** August 18, 2005, 08:08:49 PM »

If you really believe what you are saying, then that's pretty snobby. Accents are determined by where you are from, not your intelligence.

The fact that some people don't feel the need to sound like you dosn't mean they aren't as smart as you.

Jono · « **Reply #35 on:** August 18, 2005, 08:32:33 PM »

Accents aren't just determined by where you're from. They're also determined by socioeconomic status, race, gender, education, the accents of your parents and peers, and whatever affectations you may have.

I've lived most of my life in Utah, and I'm pretty open and forgiving when it comes to accents, but the one she's describing still manages to grate on my ears. (It's not just a southern Utah accent, by the way.)

pattyshmack · « **Reply #36 on:** August 18, 2005, 08:39:42 PM »

let me clarify myself (maybe I should be more specific) certain people in southern Utah (specifically teenage girls) tend to talk snobbish and they say things to sound cute when they actually aren't. Trust me I am from the area and don't necessarily talk like that. Therefore, it is totally not an accent. Maybe I shouldn't have assumed you knew anything about that area.

Jono · « **Reply #37 on:** August 18, 2005, 08:43:03 PM »

Oh, it's definitely an accent. It's just not specifically a regional accent. It's a regional accent used by a certain class of young girls in Utah. I don't know if it exists in Salt Lake, but I've definitely heard it in Provo and Orem.

pattyshmack · « **Reply #38 on:** August 18, 2005, 08:48:04 PM »

The "young girls" thing is found in most other languages too. Consider the valley girl. (just an interesting observation) And I think accents go further than even the regional. They are found in any group really. Almost, to define yourself, which is just fine. But just so we don't fall off the specificity ladder, in general, the dialect I referred to is almost like a learned group talk to define who other people aren't. (hopefully that made any sense at all)

kojabu · « **Reply #39 on:** August 18, 2005, 10:31:08 PM »

What's a "mou-en" supposed to be?

Porter · « **Reply #40 on:** August 18, 2005, 10:55:27 PM »

It's where you swallow the "t" in mountain and replace it with a glottal stop. It's actually pretty common throughout the country, and most people do it to some degree or another. Even those that mock ignorant Utahns for doing it more than they do.

AFR · « **Reply #41 on:** August 18, 2005, 11:34:42 PM »

I'm always a big fan of sentences like "The car needs washed."

We had neighbors who talked like that. I was talking to the wife once, and she actually said "isn't," stopped, and corrected herself with"ain't." Since then, I've always wondered if that whole way of talking was just an affectation.

pattyshmack · « **Reply #42 on:** August 18, 2005, 11:46:03 PM »

My sister-in-law and I debated about whether mayonnaise was pronounced exactly how it was spelled or how me and my brother say it,"man-aize." She got out a dictionary and well I have to say the proof was in the pudding and she was right (or was it mister Webster?). Of course she mocked us for our ignorance but it was all in good fun.

pooka · « **Reply #43 on:** August 19, 2005, 05:57:38 AM »

You know, the reason a Webster's dictionary is remarkable is because it is based on usage instead of classical etymology.

Jono · « **Reply #44 on:** August 19, 2005, 07:52:28 AM »

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It's where you swallow the "t" in mountain and replace it with a glottal stop. It's actually pretty common throughout the country, and most people do it to some degree or another. Even those that mock ignorant Utahns for doing it more than they do.

I thought we figured the difference was whether the glottal stop was followed by a syllabic n or followed by a vowel and then n.

Jono · « **Reply #45 on:** August 19, 2005, 07:53:03 AM »

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You know, the reason a Webster's dictionary is remarkable is because it is based on usage instead of classical etymology.

And yet Merriam-Webster's doesn't have the "man-ayz" pronunciation. Someone's been slacking!

Porter · « **Reply #46 on:** August 19, 2005, 08:20:43 AM »

I pronounce it "man-ayz".

saxon75 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 19, 2005, 08:37:50 AM »

I most often hear either "man-ayz" or "mayn-ayz."

scottneb · « **Reply #48 on:** August 19, 2005, 10:13:44 AM »

My wife's gonna hate me for this:

She's got this funky accent that makes her say "mee-an-ayz." She also says family: "fee-am-lee," and pants: "pee-ants."

But, that's just one more reason I love her. (And because she's sitting right here.)

On a side note, Boise is said "boy-see" with a hard "s." Not "boy-zee" with a lazy "z."

Jonathon · « **Reply #49 on:** August 19, 2005, 10:16:44 AM »

Did you marry a New Englander? I assumed your wife was from southern Utah like you.