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If you saw the name "Ellory," would you assume it belonged to a girl or a boy?

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Offline Brinestone

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First impression
« on: February 04, 2011, 06:35:18 AM »
I'm not allowing for those who would reserve judgment. Take a stand: girl or boy?
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Re: First impression
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 07:03:53 AM »
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Re: First impression
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 07:05:07 AM »
I confess to also being swayed by the mystery "writer" and character of the almost-same name.
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Re: First impression
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 08:02:48 AM »
Ellery is a boy's name.

Ellory is a girl's name.

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Re: First impression
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 08:08:22 AM »
I'm not allowing for those who would reserve judgment. Take a stand: girl or boy?

What about judging you for spelling the name of my ancestor wrong? :p
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Re: First impression
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2011, 08:32:54 AM »
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Re: First impression
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 09:25:28 AM »
I could see it going either way, though it first strikes me as a girl.

However, names of ambiguous gender are teh awesome.
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Re: First impression
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2011, 09:27:44 AM »
What about if it's Elery? Same reaction?
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Re: First impression
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2011, 09:33:17 AM »
Still sounds like a boys name to me.  Though I imagine he will likely see some grief at school, but that must be balanced against the very righteous desire to keep the name pool diverse and interesting.
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Re: First impression
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 09:40:38 AM »
However, names of ambiguous gender are teh awesome.
Why do you think this?
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Re: First impression
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 10:22:20 AM »
Our soon to be has been called "Cedar" for the better part of a year.  It will be interesting to see if we are able to change tracks. 

I also thought of Ellery Queen, but if Hillary Clinton does return to the political limelight, I wouldn't want a kid saddled with a name that resembled hers. 
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Re: First impression
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 10:27:26 AM »
If there are two Ls, I think it's a girl. If there is one, I think it's a boy. The vowel is neither here nor there.

However, names of ambiguous gender are teh awesome.
Why do you think this?

Because I grew up with one and even after one traumatic experience in third grade music class I learned to own it.
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Re: First impression
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 10:52:45 AM »
Your first name or your middle name?
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Re: First impression
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2011, 10:54:26 AM »
I must be ignorant on this, but I always thought Annie's name was, well, Annie.
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Re: First impression
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2011, 10:59:40 AM »
I thought her first name was Anneke, which while foreign, is not what I'd consider androgynous.  But maybe I'm mashing up androgynous and gender ambiguous.
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Re: First impression
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2011, 11:13:38 AM »
Yeah,  I don't see how her name is ambiguous either.
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Re: First impression
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2011, 11:15:19 AM »
Anneke, if that is indeed her real name is an awesome name.  Very Japanese.  I'd always thought that was the Japanese name she'd picked up while on her mission and had stuck with it.
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Re: First impression
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2011, 11:18:22 AM »
I believe she grew up using her middle name, Morgan.
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Re: First impression
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2011, 11:27:30 AM »
Anneke is dutch, though.  I'm not sure why you'd pick up a Japanese name on a mission.  Aren't you supposed to go by Elder or Sister?
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Re: First impression
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2011, 11:31:08 AM »
Anneke is dutch, though.  I'm not sure why you'd pick up a Japanese name on a mission.  Aren't you supposed to go by Elder or Sister?
Yes, but many missionaries still get full Chinese/Japanes names and then use them after their missions.

edit: Also, Anneke sounds like a Japanes approximation of Annie.  This probably doesn't help but there's an anime where the older brother is called Anneke which means older brother in Japanese, with a bit of a twist on the pronounciation.
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Re: First impression
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2011, 12:40:12 PM »
Annie's name is "Anneke Morgan M***".  She grew up as Morgan, only switching to "Anneke" when she came to college and her professors started calling her by it because that is what showed up on their roll.  Being the bashful girl that she can be now and then, she didn't want to correct them, so the name stuck.  Hence, she is referring to Morgan as the gender neutral name.
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Re: First impression
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2011, 12:42:46 PM »
Maybe I'm pronouncing it wrong in my head.  I hear Anneke as,

Ann - ni (as in nit) - key
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Re: First impression
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2011, 12:43:20 PM »
In general, am not a fan of gender neutral names.
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Re: First impression
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2011, 12:44:12 PM »
Also, Ellery = boy for the same reason Jesse said.  Ellery Queen will always be my favorite detective.  As a side note, I did not have a hard time accepting "Ellery" as a boy's name when I first read his books (as opposed to, say Ashley or Cortney...er...that guy off Law and Order with the superlatively girly name) so you can take that for what you will.

and BB, I think you're pronouncing it right
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Re: First impression
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2011, 01:02:43 PM »
In general, am not a fan of gender neutral names.
How do you feel about Taylor?  You won't offend me, I have never been able to nail down how I feel about it myself.
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