GalacticCactus Forum

Author Topic: Survey on American Jewish Language  (Read 8742 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Jonathon

  • Evil T-Rex
  • Administrator
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 24,788
  • This is the darkest timeline
    • View Profile
    • GalacticCactus
Survey on American Jewish Language
« on: July 19, 2008, 08:35:45 AM »
link

They want both Jews and non-Jews to take it. I figured some people here might be interested in taking it.
You underestimate my ability to take things seriously!

Offline Porter

  • ruining funny with facts
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 22,373
  • long time lurker, first time poster
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2008, 09:05:11 AM »
Quote
They want both Jews and non-Jews to take it.
What about the rest of us? ;)
Tomorrow Poster
Sooner or later, this forum is going to max out on hyperliteralness.

Offline Jonathon

  • Evil T-Rex
  • Administrator
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 24,788
  • This is the darkest timeline
    • View Profile
    • GalacticCactus
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2008, 09:09:20 AM »
You can take it too, Porter. :P  
You underestimate my ability to take things seriously!

Offline The Genuine

  • Ambcloacador of Right On
  • Super Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,570
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2008, 11:34:06 AM »
Did anyone provide their email address to be notified when the results are in?  (I didn't.)

If you did, please post them!
I think Jesse's right.

 -- Jonathon

Offline Tante Shvester

  • Souper Member
  • Super Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 9,912
    • View Profile
    • About Tante
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2008, 08:26:40 PM »
I gave them my email address.


They didn't list among the choices of what you call your mother, what my kid calls me.

I'm "Ma".  And I call my Ma "Ma".  Is this uncommon?
Fighting thread drift with guilt, reverse psychology, and chicken soup.
Sweet! Law of Moses loopholes! -- Anneke
I love Bones.  -- Sweet Clementine
She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was room-temperature Canadian beef. -- anonymous

Offline The Genuine

  • Ambcloacador of Right On
  • Super Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,570
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2008, 08:30:06 PM »
I'm a Ma man too.  I chose Mom since Ma wasn't an option.

But I say Dad, not Da.
I think Jesse's right.

 -- Jonathon

Offline rivka

  • Linguistic Anarchist
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,351
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2008, 11:15:12 PM »
Quote
And I call my Ma "Ma".  Is this uncommon?
Nope.
"Expecting loved ones to read our minds is the greased slide to misery. No matter how obvious we all think it all “should” be."
-Carolyn Hax

Offline rivka

  • Linguistic Anarchist
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,351
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2008, 11:27:19 PM »
Quote
Q: Why didn’t you ask about shlep, tshatshke, goyim, shiksa, putz, shmuck, shtup, shmegege, lox, blintzes, etc.?
A: We didn’t think everyone would want to spend 2 hours taking a survey…
:lol:

You know, I'm not sure, but I think I might have met one of the two researchers. She is a teacher at a couple of SoCal universities, and not only does her name ring a bell, she looks vaguely familiar.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2008, 12:24:03 PM by rivka »
"Expecting loved ones to read our minds is the greased slide to misery. No matter how obvious we all think it all “should” be."
-Carolyn Hax

Offline Porter

  • ruining funny with facts
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 22,373
  • long time lurker, first time poster
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2008, 07:10:47 AM »
Quote
Quote
And I call my Ma "Ma".  Is this uncommon?
Nope.
My initial reaction was "Yes, unless you live on the prairie, preferable in a small house."
Tomorrow Poster
Sooner or later, this forum is going to max out on hyperliteralness.

Offline Tante Shvester

  • Souper Member
  • Super Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 9,912
    • View Profile
    • About Tante
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2008, 11:19:59 AM »
Porter, what do you call your ma?
Fighting thread drift with guilt, reverse psychology, and chicken soup.
Sweet! Law of Moses loopholes! -- Anneke
I love Bones.  -- Sweet Clementine
She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was room-temperature Canadian beef. -- anonymous

Offline Porter

  • ruining funny with facts
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 22,373
  • long time lurker, first time poster
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2008, 01:16:55 PM »
Usually "Mom" and sometimes "Mother".
Tomorrow Poster
Sooner or later, this forum is going to max out on hyperliteralness.

Offline Annie Subjunctive

  • Hausfrau
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,921
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2008, 07:31:40 PM »
I think "Ma" is closer to "Mama" than to "Mom."

I've never called my parents Mom/Mommy or Dad/Daddy, except when I was around friends and was too embarrassed. It's really weird to say it. They were always Mama and Papa, but I'm not sure where in the family this came from. I thought it was Southern, but the rest of my Southern family says Mama/Daddy.
"It is true, however, that the opposite of Little Rock, Arkansas is Boulder, Colorado." - Tante

Offline rivka

  • Linguistic Anarchist
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,351
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2009, 12:53:14 PM »
"Expecting loved ones to read our minds is the greased slide to misery. No matter how obvious we all think it all “should” be."
-Carolyn Hax

Offline Farmgirl

  • Out Standing in Her Field
  • Super Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,598
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2009, 01:03:44 PM »
Wow. That "SUK-kiss  vs. soo-COAT" part was amazing to me. I didn't know there were different ways of saying that.
"Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil and you’re a thousand miles from the corn field." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

Being a farmer is not something that you do—it is something that you are.


If I could eat only one fruit, I wouldn't choose the blueberry. It is too small. I'd go with watermelon. There is a lot to eat on a watermelon. - Tante

Offline Tante Shvester

  • Souper Member
  • Super Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 9,912
    • View Profile
    • About Tante
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2009, 10:07:16 PM »
The results reinforce my assertion that I am not peppering my language with foreign words, but rather with New York regionalisms.

In formal speech and writing, I conform to standard English, but in informal speech and friendly informal writing (like here), I use a more conversational, colloquial form of English.  The New Yorkish Variant.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2009, 10:08:19 PM by Tante Shvester »
Fighting thread drift with guilt, reverse psychology, and chicken soup.
Sweet! Law of Moses loopholes! -- Anneke
I love Bones.  -- Sweet Clementine
She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was room-temperature Canadian beef. -- anonymous

Offline rivka

  • Linguistic Anarchist
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,351
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2009, 10:21:16 PM »
Quote
I am not peppering my language with foreign words, but rather with New York regionalisms.
Why are you so sure there's a difference? ;)
"Expecting loved ones to read our minds is the greased slide to misery. No matter how obvious we all think it all “should” be."
-Carolyn Hax

Offline Tante Shvester

  • Souper Member
  • Super Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 9,912
    • View Profile
    • About Tante
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2009, 10:24:03 PM »
'Cause I don't hold by that.
Fighting thread drift with guilt, reverse psychology, and chicken soup.
Sweet! Law of Moses loopholes! -- Anneke
I love Bones.  -- Sweet Clementine
She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was room-temperature Canadian beef. -- anonymous

Offline rivka

  • Linguistic Anarchist
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,351
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2009, 10:37:24 PM »
:rolleyes:  
"Expecting loved ones to read our minds is the greased slide to misery. No matter how obvious we all think it all “should” be."
-Carolyn Hax

Offline Tante Shvester

  • Souper Member
  • Super Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 9,912
    • View Profile
    • About Tante
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2009, 10:39:12 PM »
I was surprised to learn that “Are you coming to us for dinner?” isn't standard.  The rest of the country really says “Are you coming to our place for dinner?”  I had no idea.
Fighting thread drift with guilt, reverse psychology, and chicken soup.
Sweet! Law of Moses loopholes! -- Anneke
I love Bones.  -- Sweet Clementine
She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was room-temperature Canadian beef. -- anonymous

Offline rivka

  • Linguistic Anarchist
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,351
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2009, 10:54:43 PM »
Actually, I'm with you on that one.
"Expecting loved ones to read our minds is the greased slide to misery. No matter how obvious we all think it all “should” be."
-Carolyn Hax

Offline Tante Shvester

  • Souper Member
  • Super Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 9,912
    • View Profile
    • About Tante
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2009, 11:35:56 PM »
+1 list

or, as some of us put it,

Shvester!
Fighting thread drift with guilt, reverse psychology, and chicken soup.
Sweet! Law of Moses loopholes! -- Anneke
I love Bones.  -- Sweet Clementine
She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was room-temperature Canadian beef. -- anonymous

Offline Jonathon

  • Evil T-Rex
  • Administrator
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 24,788
  • This is the darkest timeline
    • View Profile
    • GalacticCactus
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2009, 09:29:11 AM »
I would probably say, "Are you coming over for dinner?" "Coming to us" definitely sounds strange to me.
You underestimate my ability to take things seriously!

Offline Porter

  • ruining funny with facts
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 22,373
  • long time lurker, first time poster
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2009, 09:31:54 AM »
Same here.  "Coming to us" means "coming towards us" to me.
Tomorrow Poster
Sooner or later, this forum is going to max out on hyperliteralness.

Offline rivka

  • Linguistic Anarchist
  • Übermember
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,351
    • View Profile
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2009, 10:58:09 AM »
Huh.

Irrationally, I want to encourage the spread of this one, and wipe "by us" off the face of the planet. ;)
"Expecting loved ones to read our minds is the greased slide to misery. No matter how obvious we all think it all “should” be."
-Carolyn Hax

Offline Tante Shvester

  • Souper Member
  • Super Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 9,912
    • View Profile
    • About Tante
Survey on American Jewish Language
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2009, 11:46:20 AM »
By me, either sounds fine.
Fighting thread drift with guilt, reverse psychology, and chicken soup.
Sweet! Law of Moses loopholes! -- Anneke
I love Bones.  -- Sweet Clementine
She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was room-temperature Canadian beef. -- anonymous