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« Reply #350 on: May 07, 2008, 02:51:17 AM »
Yes. It's also from the Simpsons.
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« Reply #351 on: May 07, 2008, 07:57:45 AM »
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« Reply #352 on: May 07, 2008, 09:51:27 AM »
My opinion is this: if you don't like a word like orientate, don't use it. But don't try to tell me there's something innately wrong with it, and don't judge and ridicule those who use it. Ruth told me that she naturally uses orientate, and I have never felt like her speech was ostentatious or pretentious or affected.

And really, isn't the word ostentatious more ostentatious than orientate, and erudite more erudite than orientate?
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« Reply #353 on: May 07, 2008, 09:56:27 AM »
Until this discussion, I always thought orientate sounded uneducated. I was self-conscious of the fact that I used it.
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« Reply #354 on: May 07, 2008, 12:41:39 PM »
When does anyone say "orient" in daily speech?  Perhaps in furniture arranging?
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« Reply #355 on: May 07, 2008, 12:44:43 PM »
I think the only time I've ever heard orientate used or used it was jokingly in reference to orientation events.  As in, "what are you doing this weekend?"  "Oh, I've got to go get orientated."

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« Reply #356 on: May 07, 2008, 03:18:48 PM »
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When does anyone say "orient" in daily speech?  Perhaps in furniture arranging?
The opposite, with "dis," is somewhat more common. But I certainly have heard people talk about becoming oriented to their surroundings, or new job, or whatever.

I have visceral reaction to "orientate" (why? dunno), but I apologize if anyone felt judged or ridiculed. That was certainly not my intent.
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« Reply #357 on: May 07, 2008, 03:31:52 PM »
So, could this adoption of orientate be described as orientatenation?

Would that be orientable?

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« Reply #358 on: May 07, 2008, 03:57:53 PM »
I deal with 3D modeling at work, and it's pretty common to talk about the orientation of a part.  
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« Reply #359 on: May 08, 2008, 02:58:53 PM »
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My opinion is this: if you don't like a word like orientate, don't use it. But don't try to tell me there's something innately wrong with it, and don't judge and ridicule those who use it. Ruth told me that she naturally uses orientate, and I have never felt like her speech was ostentatious or pretentious or affected.

And really, isn't the word ostentatious more ostentatious than orientate, and erudite more erudite than orientate?
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I'm sorry if I caused hurt feelings.  Please accept my apologies.
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« Reply #360 on: May 08, 2008, 03:11:42 PM »
I don't think you or Rivka or anyone else were insulting. I wasn't insulted, at any rate, and nobody else has said that they were either.

I guess I just don't understand the harsh criticisms some people heap on particular items of usage. If it's a joke, then I don't get it. If it's serious, then I think it's misinformed. I especially don't get why people have such strong feelings about such an obscure word as orientate.

Of course, I'm a hypocrite too, because I generally dislike the word utilize, but I think that's only (or mostly) because it's such a common word in overblown technical and bureaucratic writing.
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« Reply #361 on: May 08, 2008, 03:13:42 PM »
I heard the word orientate again today.  The beekeeper who brought 2 dozen behives here to live on our place said that the bees will be especially active and ornery for a day or so while they orientate themselves to their new surroundings.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2008, 03:16:37 PM by Porteiro »
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« Reply #362 on: May 08, 2008, 03:25:44 PM »
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I don't think you or Rivka or anyone else were insulting. I wasn't insulted, at any rate, and nobody else has said that they were either.
Thanks for that, Jonathon.  It's been bothering me for days, the chagrin.
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« Reply #363 on: May 08, 2008, 03:28:14 PM »
Don't you mean chagrinitatory?

Or is that chagrinatatifications?
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« Reply #364 on: June 03, 2008, 11:02:11 AM »
Okay - just overheard this at work and it made me ROFL.  Ought to use it as a sig.

Two co-workers talking about cars.

"This car wasn't just red, it was RED. It was a kinda of 'you-can-kill-someone-in-this-car-and-get-away-with-it' red!"


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« Reply #365 on: June 03, 2008, 11:06:48 AM »
I absolve you of those hyphens.
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« Reply #366 on: June 03, 2008, 11:13:31 AM »
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(sorry for all the hyphens, JB)
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« Reply #367 on: June 03, 2008, 11:14:55 AM »
In that usage, the speaker kind of intended them as a single word, I would guess.

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« Reply #368 on: June 03, 2008, 11:16:55 AM »
I actually think that's an awesome use of hyphens.
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« Reply #369 on: June 03, 2008, 11:26:35 AM »
I just had to say the apology because I had just read JB's column on hyphens, and I realized I have no idea what the right way is to use hyphens.
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« Reply #370 on: June 03, 2008, 11:32:57 AM »
You clearly have at least an idea. :)
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« Reply #371 on: June 03, 2008, 02:08:39 PM »
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Okay - just overheard this at work and it made me ROFL.  Ought to use it as a sig.

Two co-workers talking about cars.

"This car wasn't just red, it was RED. It was a kinda of 'you-can-kill-someone-in-this-car-and-get-away-with-it' red!"


(sorry for all the hyphens, JB)
Meaning the blood splatter would blend in with the paint?  And I really hope they didn't say "kinda of," but very intelligent sounding people either way.
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« Reply #372 on: June 03, 2008, 02:32:00 PM »
Ha -- yeah, I know. I pointed out that blood, once dried or exposed to air long, is no longer red, but more of a dull brown, and that would show up nicely on a red car :)
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« Reply #373 on: June 26, 2008, 01:34:26 PM »
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Inasmuch as we had not previously utilized I was concerned about what it would mean.
As am I.
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« Reply #374 on: July 18, 2008, 03:03:13 PM »
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In Paul's discussion in verse 3, the KJV "benevolence" (Greek opheilen) literally means "that which is owed" or "one's due or obligation," which was also a euphemism for pleasing a wife conjugally.
Which is itself a euphemism for having sex.  
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