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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2125 on: August 22, 2023, 09:55:42 PM »
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Huh. I had no idea that orca was derived from orc.
Wow!

But why is the ear of corn called a cob?  Is it because it's cobbled?  (I fell into the cobbler discussion from many years ago on another thread).
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2126 on: November 28, 2023, 04:58:49 PM »
I was thinking about pedigree, and whether the "ped" part was like the food "ped" or the child "pedo", and figuring that it was probably the latter, because of genealogy, but it turns out it as actually the former and pedigree comes from the French "pied de gru" (crane's foot).
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2127 on: November 28, 2023, 05:21:37 PM »
Huh.
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2128 on: November 29, 2023, 08:04:46 AM »
Huh indeed.
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On old manuscripts, "descent" was indicated by a forked sign resembling the branching lines of a genealogical chart; the sign also happened to look like a bird's footprint. On this theory the form was influenced in Middle English by association with degree. This explanation dates back to Skeat and Sweet in the late 1800s. The word obviously is of French origin, and pied de gru is the only Old French term answering to the earliest English forms, but this sense is not attested in Old French (Modern French pédigree is from English). Perhaps it was a fanciful extension developed in Anglo-French. Other explanations are considered untenable.

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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2129 on: December 01, 2023, 12:23:43 PM »
What is the opposite of contraband?  Proband?
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2130 on: December 18, 2023, 07:04:43 AM »
I was thinking about the phagos in sarcophagus. And wondering what those sarcophagi were eating, and it turns out that they made them out of limestone so that the stone would digest the body.

If that was the point, though, why even bother with a sarcophagus at all.  If you want the body to be decomposed and digested, just leave it out and forget about the stone box.
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2131 on: December 18, 2023, 10:03:04 AM »
Encyclopedia Britannica says that may not be true:
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The original term is of doubtful meaning. Pliny explains that the word denotes a coffin of limestone from the Troad (the region around Troy) which had the property of dissolving the body quickly (Greek sarx, “flesh,” and phagein, “to eat”), but this explanation is questionable; religious and folkloristic ideas may have been involved in calling a coffin a body eater.
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2132 on: January 15, 2024, 04:56:06 AM »
Not only do "shampoo" and "shamrock" lack a common etymology,  they also have nothing to do with "sham".

Nevertheless, I still prefer real rocks to shamrocks, but prefer shampoo to real poo.
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2133 on: February 24, 2024, 10:50:04 PM »
This reminds me of an elementary school kid who was admitted to the pediatric ward for putting shampoo on the cat, supposedly with lethal intent.  I always thought that one was kind of dumb.  I guess it could depend on if he planned for the cat to be poisoned by licking its fur.  But the psych eval didn't get into any specifics like that. 
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2134 on: June 03, 2024, 04:06:53 PM »
An article using "narc" to mean narcissist caused me to look up:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/narcotic#etymonline_v_2285
It seems there is no relation.
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2135 on: June 03, 2024, 04:08:38 PM »
I don't think I've encountered "narc" to mean "narcissist".
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2136 on: June 03, 2024, 06:10:40 PM »
I have seen it a handful of times recently.

I was very confused the first couple times. Now I just roll my eyes and go on.

Edit: It's been included on the Wiktionary listing for several years. Huh.

Edit2: And there's this discussion on Reddit.
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2137 on: June 04, 2024, 11:52:57 AM »
As a GenX person, I understand "narc" to mean "snitch".
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2138 on: June 05, 2024, 10:19:33 AM »
It was the first time I'd seen it, and it was not a fully peer reviewed article.  More of a thesis. 
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2139 on: September 05, 2024, 08:22:30 PM »
The "sub" in substance is the base that supports stuff so that it is sturdy.  Something that is substantial is firm and well-supported.  Now that I realize this, I want flimsy things to be superstantial.
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2140 on: September 10, 2024, 11:26:03 AM »
Supercilious?
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Re: The random etymology of the day
« Reply #2141 on: September 10, 2024, 09:02:01 PM »
The super part is high or raised and the cilious is hair like cilia. Supercilious is a raised eyebrow.
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