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English & Linguistics / The random etymology of the day
« on: February 10, 2010, 07:16:58 AM »
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Here are 10 fun etymologies of the day. I'm not sure about the accuracy, but I particularly like the etymology of serendipity.
There's more to the etymology of "robot": Karel ?apek or his brother got the word from Czech robota "drudgery, compulsory service". It's cognate with orphan.

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English & Linguistics / a suffix question
« on: September 24, 2009, 06:45:27 PM »
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It certainly was not my problem.  It fit perfectly and conveyed my meaning.  Where would we be if Shakespeare or Chaucer's English teachers had told them to stop making up new words?
Shakespeare and Chaucer didn't have English teachers. So it is your problem. :)

I find it interesting that we have both reality and realness.

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English & Linguistics / You keep on using that word
« on: September 22, 2009, 06:49:57 AM »
There are a couple of -in prefixes. One means negation or privation, as in impossible, illiterate, irregular. Another means "'into, in, within; on, upon; towards, against', sometimes expressing onward motion or continuance, sometimes intensive, sometimes transitive, and in other cases with little appreciable force" (OED), as in inflammable (and inflame), irradiate, imperil, ingenious. Both of these are borrowed from Latin and exhibit assimilation with the following sound.

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English & Linguistics / You keep on using that word
« on: September 22, 2009, 05:58:46 AM »
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"Decimated" literally and originally was "reduced by 10% ("Tithing to the Church decimated my paycheck"), but nowadays it is used to mean "almost completely eliminated".
It meant "to select by lot and kill every tenth man of" and "to exact a tax of 10 percent from". Interestingly, according to OED editor Jesse Sheidlower, it has never been used in English to mean "destroy one-tenth of".

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English & Linguistics / Linguistics and Science Fiction
« on: September 22, 2009, 05:28:27 AM »
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Me too. Such a language is completely impossible, in my opinion.
The linguistics of Darmok

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What's more, I don't believe in Tamarese as described.  With regards to language change, it must be in an extraordinarily unstable state.  Let's consider the problem of young Tamarians—the children of the Children of Tama, if you will—who, if the language works the way we're told it does, are presented with a seemingly insurmountable language-learning problem.

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English & Linguistics / Funny English and Linguistics stuff...
« on: July 09, 2009, 06:55:40 PM »
Kele and Titan have a bilabial trill, which is close. (Click on the words to hear them)

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English & Linguistics / The random etymology of the day
« on: March 05, 2009, 07:58:01 AM »
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Because all the parts are joined together, threads of melody and harmony intertwining?


Oh, that's nice.
Perhaps.

????? meant "sew" but also "string or link together, unite". ??????? was "Epic composition" but also "rigmarole".

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English & Linguistics / Foreign phrases
« on: March 04, 2009, 07:41:42 AM »
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What's wrong with "soup of the day" anyway?
What's wrong ungeradlic with it is that soup is a foreign ælfremd word. What's wrong ungeradlic with "gereord of the day" anyway?

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English & Linguistics / The random etymology of the day
« on: January 21, 2009, 07:12:26 PM »
Wow.

rhapsody is from rhaptein "to sew" + aeidein "to sing".

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English & Linguistics / Sweepstakes?
« on: December 03, 2008, 04:20:59 PM »
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Thanks. That's a handy site to know about.
gaol

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English & Linguistics / Editing help request
« on: November 19, 2008, 08:52:22 PM »
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Though in my defense, I did define "remote past" as "a time before the past events being talked about," which is essentially how you defined the past perfect, goofy.
Yes you did, that's true. I must be reacting to ESL students who think that the past perfect should be used for talking about say, dinosaurs.

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English & Linguistics / Editing help request
« on: November 19, 2008, 07:05:46 PM »
I gotta disagree with Jonathan again. The past perfect is used for a past action that is completed before another past action or past point. It is not about the remote past - I could use it for yesterday (by 11 o'clock last night, he had returned home.) What's important is that there is another past action or past point more recent than the past perfect action.

Every sentence in this passage is in the past perfect except the last one. I don't think this is necessary, since there is no past action or past point for most of the passage to be compared to. I would change it all to the simple past except for "Six years before that, she had had surgery on her right breast due to cancer." In this sentence there is a past point that occurs after the past perfect verb.
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She had her first baby 6 weeks prior to contacting me. Six years before that, she had had surgery on her right breast due to cancer. One fourth of the breast was removed, and afterwards she underwent radiation therapy. During the surgery the nipple was repositioned, so the nerves and ducts were cut. Four years later a malignant tumor was detected again, this time in her left breast, and unfortunately she had a full mastectomy (the whole breast was removed). This mother found herself pregnant with her now-six-week-old daughter about one year after this second surgery.

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English & Linguistics / The random etymology of the day
« on: October 31, 2008, 07:03:11 AM »
Wow, who knew: from Old French deschevelé, from des "dis-" plus chevel, cheveu "hair".

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English & Linguistics / The random etymology of the day
« on: October 22, 2008, 06:50:46 AM »
The OED says the t in listen is an English invention. It was added due to association with list. list is cognate with German lüstern, and listen is cognate with Middle High German lüsenen.

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English & Linguistics / Hey Francophone Phreinds!
« on: October 21, 2008, 03:36:34 PM »
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We really need a causative in English.
We had one: -en. dark darken, wide widen, bright brighten, long lengthen, strong strengthen etc.

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English & Linguistics / Hey Francophone Phreinds!
« on: October 16, 2008, 07:12:05 PM »
garant(e) is "guarantor, surety" in my dictionary. It's a noun.

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English & Linguistics / Ellipsis
« on: October 15, 2008, 07:55:37 AM »
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Some of both?  I agree that schools don't stress much importance in teaching grammar, but I think the amount of communication done electronically has worsened the problem.  Where letters were once well-thought-out, many people now find simple things like capitalization a hassle.  The focus of getting a message out as quickly as possible just adds to the problem of society's very loose grasp on proper grammar.
This is exactly what David Crystal talks about in his new book, Txtng: The Gr8 Db8, and he shows that there is no cause for concern.
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Text messages aren’t full of abbreviations - typically less than ten percent of the words use them.
These abbreviations aren't a new language - they’ve been around for decades.
They aren't just used by kids - adults of all ages and institutions are the leading texters these days.

Pupils don't routinely put them into their school-work or examinations.
It isn't a cause of bad spelling: you have to know how to spell before you can text.
Texting actually improves your literacy, as it gives you more practice in reading and writing.

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English & Linguistics / Why is the abbreviation for "pounds" "lbs"?
« on: September 23, 2008, 08:30:12 PM »
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When you do typesetting, you realize pretty quickly that a lot of the symbols you need are not on the keyboard, while a lot of symbols on the keyboard are actually used pretty rarely.
 This is the keyboard you need.

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English & Linguistics / Language Guardians
« on: September 04, 2008, 06:47:08 PM »
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I can't stand when people talk about the city buses.  The correct plural is city bi.
bus is from omnibus, which is alread a plural in Latin, it's the plural dative of omnis. So in fact the word has no singular, which mean we shouldn't refer to long motor vehicles for carrying passengers in the singular. I've noticed that many people talk about one bus, but this is wrong, meaningless, and offends the senses.

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English & Linguistics / Language Guardians
« on: September 04, 2008, 12:56:21 PM »
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7595509.stm
I love how an editor has had to add a bunch of notes correcting a lot of the misconceptions.  

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English & Linguistics / Language Guardians
« on: September 02, 2008, 01:25:14 PM »
Why would you assume that?

I understand that Jeff Deck might not have had the OED on his person, but if he really cared about the language, he might have tried to find out why the word was spelled the way it was.

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English & Linguistics / Language Guardians
« on: September 02, 2008, 12:50:06 PM »
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Emense.
"emense" is a fairly common archaic variant of "immense". It wasn't a mistake.

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English & Linguistics / Language Guardians
« on: August 22, 2008, 08:22:09 AM »
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Typo Eradication Advancement League


 
Jeff Deck has been charged

Two self-anointed "grammar vigilantes" who toured the nation removing typos from public signs have been banned from national parks after vandalizing a historic marker at the Grand Canyon.

Jeff Michael Deck, 28, of Somerville, Mass., and Benjamin Douglas Herson, 28, of Virginia Beach, Va., pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in Flagstaff after damaging a rare, hand-painted sign in Grand Canyon National Park. They were sentenced to a year's probation, during which they cannot enter any national park, and were ordered to pay restitution.
 

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English & Linguistics / Language Guardians
« on: August 20, 2008, 07:59:56 PM »
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some prescriptivists like the guy who founded the Typo Eradication Advancement League (who seems to think he's not a prescriptivist).
He's the guy who said that typos are "vile stains on the delicate fabric of our language." As if English has not survived most of its life without a standard spelling.

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