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Title: But is it a sandwich?
Post by: pooka on February 18, 2017, 09:18:12 PM

I was reading about sandwiches on another forum and remembered Jonathon had a column about whether burgers and hot dogs were sandwiches. 

Well, what about that mobius sliced bagel with stuff in the "middle"?

I have some plain bagels.  If I had less self control I would go mobiusize one right now.  Tomorrow is another day. 

Title: Re: But is it a sandwich?
Post by: Jonathon on February 18, 2017, 09:28:21 PM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4-bB61WAAAmWBg.jpg:large) (http://blankpointdankmemes.tumblr.com/post/157157040239)

Title: Re: But is it a sandwich?
Post by: Jonathon on May 10, 2017, 08:39:33 AM

I think this discussion about sandwiches (https://www.patreon.com/posts/10769969) is hands-down the best I've heard yet. (It starts around 8:30.)

Title: Re: But is it a sandwich?
Post by: rivka on May 10, 2017, 09:08:57 AM

The chart they are talking about:
(https://i0.wp.com/flowingdata.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Sandwich-alignment-chart.jpg?resize=1090%2C749)

I object to his leavened-bread requirement.

Title: Re: But is it a sandwich?
Post by: Jonathon on May 10, 2017, 09:29:33 AM

I actually agree with him that that's one of the most important requirements.

(http://www.arrantpedantry.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/sandwichphylogeny.png) (http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2016/06/15/sorry-merriam-webster-but-hot-dogs-are-not-sandwiches/)

Title: Re: But is it a sandwich?
Post by: rivka on May 10, 2017, 10:10:33 AM

Well, when I have sliced cold cuts with lettuce on matza, that IS a sandwich. :P

Title: Re: But is it a sandwich?
Post by: Jonathon on May 10, 2017, 10:57:27 AM

So do you have a piece of matza, then the layers of stuff, then another piece of matza? I might be willing to make an exception for that.

Title: Re: But is it a sandwich?
Post by: Tante Shvester on May 10, 2017, 11:12:35 AM

Rivka, I'd call korech (the Hillel sandwich) a sandwich, even though no one would ever order one in a sandwich shop or eat one for lunch.

Title: Re: But is it a sandwich?
Post by: rivka on May 10, 2017, 05:44:47 PM

Quote from: Jonathon on May 10, 2017, 10:57:27 AM

So do you have a piece of matza, then the layers of stuff, then another piece of matza?

Yup.

Quote from: Tante Shvester on May 10, 2017, 11:12:35 AM

Rivka, I'd call korech (the Hillel sandwich) a sandwich, even though no one would ever order one in a sandwich shop or eat one for lunch.

Oh, for sure. But it's within the description Jonathon just stated, neh? Matza, maror, charoset, matza.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/39/75/12/397512e01372e3be3c1eec6b83223048.jpg)

Title: Re: But is it a sandwich?
Post by: pooka on May 27, 2023, 01:52:38 AM

I was finding out more about "pepperoni rolls" which are a West Virginia thing, and they were offered a sandwich exemption from meat processing
inspections if they sliced them.  The pepperoni roll people said that would defeat the identity of the rolls, and so the USDA made them a special case.  I found it really interesting that there was a legal designation of sandwich, which is important to whether meat is considered to be processed by a vendor.