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Title: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Porter on February 17, 2010, 01:03:53 PM
Is there a word to describe killing your own child, like we have for killing one of your parents (fratricide and matricide).
Title: Is there a word for that?
Post by: rivka on February 17, 2010, 01:07:58 PM
Laius. :P
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Post by: Tante Shvester on February 17, 2010, 01:25:00 PM
Infanticide.  Or maybe pesticide.
Title: Is there a word for that?
Post by: The Genuine on February 17, 2010, 02:29:27 PM
Filicide is specific to one's own children, whereas infanticide could be anyone's.

I am not your attorney, Porter, but I still must advise you against committing any acts of filicide.  Go kill one of your kids instead.
Title: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Porter on February 17, 2010, 04:39:11 PM
Filicide is what I was looking for.  Thanks.

 
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Post by: BlackBlade on February 17, 2010, 05:22:29 PM
We need more words with the suffix -cide.

Additional possibilities might be killing: silence, time, joy, buzzes, and switches.
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Post by: Jonathon on February 17, 2010, 05:39:24 PM
I don't think I've ever heard that word before. Cool.
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on February 17, 2010, 06:31:58 PM
Is it OK if this thread title keeps making me want to say "Qu'est-ce que c'est?"
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Post by: Tante Shvester on February 17, 2010, 09:07:19 PM
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Is it OK if this thread title keeps making me want to say "Qu'est-ce que c'est?"
No, it's really not.  You should get some help for that problem.
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Post by: rivka on February 17, 2010, 10:28:10 PM
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We need more words with the suffix -cide.

Additional possibilities might be killing: silence, time, joy, buzzes, and switches.
None of those really scans well.
Title: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Tante Shvester on February 17, 2010, 11:05:42 PM
Well, killing time would be chronocide, no?
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Post by: rivka on February 17, 2010, 11:09:43 PM
Ah. That could work.
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Post by: BlackBlade on February 18, 2010, 07:50:26 AM
I kinda like chronocide.  I confess a big obstacle is I cannot identify the Latin roots of any of those words I'd be killing, off the top of my head.
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Post by: pooka on February 20, 2010, 06:03:00 AM
Chronos is Greek, Tempicide would be latin.  But the Romans loved using Greek roots.

I thought this thread would be about whether child-killer means someone who kills children or a deadly child.
Title: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Porter on February 21, 2010, 08:53:55 PM
Like St. Alia of the Knife, who knowingly killed her grandfather when she was around 5 years old?
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Post by: Tante Shvester on February 21, 2010, 08:57:10 PM
Yeah, just like that.
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Post by: Mucus on February 22, 2010, 01:39:11 PM
Alternatively, Childkiller (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Childkiller) reputation
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Post by: Porter on May 22, 2010, 09:32:50 AM
Revenge is visiting ill upon those who have wronged you in the past.  

Is there a word for visiting good upon those who have righted you in the past?

I'm currently reading The Count of Monte Cristo.  Before he runs around as an avenging angel, he first runs around as a [is there a word for this?]ing angel.
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Post by: The Genuine on May 22, 2010, 11:36:04 AM
Meed or guerdon.
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Post by: Jonathon on May 22, 2010, 02:54:51 PM
The best I can come up with is repay, but that's more of a neutral term.
Title: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Porter on May 22, 2010, 09:06:03 PM
I don't know which is more annoying -- the fact that English is such a bloated language with so many needless synonyms and ludicrously-specific words, or the occasions when I want a specific word to exist and it's not there.
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Post by: The Genuine on May 22, 2010, 10:34:23 PM
I can't tell if that's a joke or not.

It's not like English, or any other spoken language except for Esperanto, was designed.
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Post by: rivka on May 22, 2010, 11:24:44 PM
Redeem? Redeeming angel works, I think.
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on May 23, 2010, 01:00:42 AM
Porter, you're so ungrateful. Do you know that there are little children in China right now who don't even have needless synonyms and ludicrously-specific words?
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Post by: rivka on May 23, 2010, 01:22:53 AM
:lol:  
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Post by: Neutros the Radioactive Dragon on May 23, 2010, 06:54:02 AM
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Porter, you're so ungrateful. Do you know that there are little children in China right now who don't even have needless synonyms and ludicrously-specific words?
You're sure about that?  ;)  
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Post by: BlackBlade on May 23, 2010, 07:43:49 AM
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Porter, you're so ungrateful. Do you know that there are little children in China right now who don't even have needless synonyms and ludicrously-specific words?
They also don't have their gorgeous calligraphic system for writing because they have to pay all superfluous strokes and character radicals in taxes to the communist party.  Leaving only that ugly, albeit easier to write version.
Title: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Porter on May 24, 2010, 10:42:57 AM
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I can't tell if that's a joke or not.

It's not like English, or any other spoken language except for Esperanto, was designed.
It's a joke that's only funny because it's not really a joke. :P

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Redeem? Redeeming angel works, I think.
In the context of Monte Cristo, it really does.

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Porter, you're so ungrateful. Do you know that there are little children in China right now who don't even have needless synonyms and ludicrously-specific words?
Maybe I'll donate defenestration to them.
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Post by: Jonathon on May 24, 2010, 11:41:28 AM
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It's a joke that's only funny because it's not really a joke. :P
Huh? How so?
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Post by: rivka on May 24, 2010, 12:00:30 PM
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Redeem? Redeeming angel works, I think.
In the context of Monte Cristo, it really does.
An' I helped!

Also, you can't give away defenestrate. I love that word!
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Post by: Neutros the Radioactive Dragon on May 24, 2010, 12:21:38 PM
*throws rivka out window*
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Post by: rivka on May 24, 2010, 12:26:55 PM
*lands on trampoline, bounces back to window, punches assailant in the face*
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Post by: Porter on May 25, 2010, 04:47:16 PM
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It's a joke that's only funny because it's not really a joke. :P
Huh? How so?
While I normally think that English's superfluity of redundancy to be ungood, I really did get annoyed when I couldn't think of an appropriate word for that specific concept.  My inconsistency is funny.  At least to me.

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BTW, I came up with a word that for me works better: recompensing.
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Post by: The Genuine on November 09, 2010, 11:01:05 AM
I learned a new word today:

Quote from: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tret
tret  (trɛt)

n
commerce  (formerly) an allowance according to weight granted to purchasers for waste due to transportation. It was calculated after deduction for tare
Title: Re: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Porter on November 12, 2010, 09:41:18 PM
I really wish that there were a simple word, analogous to goat or duck, to describe the domesticated bovine that did not primarily indicate gender, like cow does.
Title: Re: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Jonathon on November 12, 2010, 10:23:46 PM
I think the "primarily" there might be arguable. I think in many people's minds, cow IS the default word, and it just happens to pull double duty as the term for a female cow, too. I thought this post (http://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/whats-the-singular-form-of-cattle/) on the subject was pretty interesting. And someone notes in this comment (http://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/whats-the-singular-form-of-cattle/#comment-4076) that dog technically has the same problem: dog refers to the male of the species, at least among breeders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog#Etymology_and_related_terminology).
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on November 12, 2010, 10:54:36 PM
I think it might be due to how close we are to cattle - animals like kangaroos can be called by a generic name because the differences among kangaroos don't matter much to us as humans. And even cats - we see them every day but whether one is male or female doesn't matter for most of our interactions with them.

If you work with cattle, though, their age, sex and reproductive status totally changes their role in your life. Most ranchers who raise cattle are cow/calf operations - that means that their stock consists of breeding cows, maybe a few bulls (for many, their interaction with bulls is only when they hire them at breeding time), and calves, which for your purposes are either heifers (you'll keep them to become breeding cows) or steers (which you'll sell at auction). (Before they were steers, they were bull calves - so you have those two categories to distinguish too) So what you do every day is not sufficiently described with a generic term for one of the animals. You're either going to go out and find pairs (cow/calf pairs), check cows, vaccinate heifers, round up steers, or castrate bull calves. Other people in the industry will work with other demographics - breeders will work with bulls, and stockyards will work with steers. Because our interactions with them are so intricately tied up with their reproductive lives, we have need for a lot more than one word. And because our industry has been so specialized, it's been a long time since someone needed to communicate about an activity involving a mixed group of cows, bulls, heifers and steers.

I've noticed the same thing among people who work with rarer animals. Us outsiders wouldn't hesitate to refer to "sheep," but my friends who live on sheep ranches talk about ewes, rams, lambs and wethers.
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Post by: Porter on November 13, 2010, 08:26:53 AM
Exactly.  With goats, we talk about kids, does, bucks, and wethers.  But we also use goats to encompass them all. For domesticated bovines, we talk about calves, cows, bulls, and steers, but have no word analogous to goat.

For me, cattle is also unsatisfactory, because of the more general usages the word can take, such as minor vs. major cattle in the KJV.

Besides being obnoxiously unwieldy, domesticated bovine also has problems, with how domesticated farm-raised bison are getting.
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Post by: Porter on November 13, 2010, 08:37:54 AM
One other option is is to call them beefs or beeves, but I find that distasteful as it seems to imply that they're nothing more than T-bone steaks that just haven't been butchered yet.  Which, in a sense, is what they are, but I still find it distasteful.

I think that those in the cattle industry (which we are not -- we raised a whole whopping 2 steer from calf this year) might simply refer to them as heads, as in "2000 heads [of cattle]".  That also does not work for our purposes, as our little farm has much more diversity, and the head count of our livestock is not the same as the number of cattle we have.
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Post by: The Genuine on November 13, 2010, 08:38:34 AM
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle#Singular_terminology_issue
Singular terminology issue

Cattle can only be used in the plural and not in the singular: it is a plurale tantum. Thus one may refer to "three cattle" or "some cattle", but not "one cattle". There is no universally used singular form in modern English of "cattle", other than the sex- and age-specific terms such as cow, bull, steer and heifer. Historically, "ox" was a non-gender-specific term for adult cattle, but generally this is now used only for draft cattle, especially adult castrated males. The term is also incorporated into the names of other species such as the musk ox and "grunting ox" (yak), and is used in some areas to describe certain cattle products such as ox-hide and ox-tail.

"Cow" is in general use as a singular for the collective "cattle", despite the objections by those who insist it to be a female-specific term. Although the phrase "that cow is a bull" is absurd from a lexicographic standpoint, the word "cow" is easy to use when a singular is needed and the sex is unknown or irrelevant - when "there is a cow in the road", for example. Further, any herd of fully mature cattle in or near a pasture is statistically likely to consist mostly of cows, so the term is probably accurate even in the restrictive sense. Other than the few bulls needed for breeding, the vast majority of male cattle are castrated as calves and slaughtered for meat before the age of three years. Thus, in a pastured herd, any calves or herd bulls usually are clearly distinguishable from the cows due to distinctively different sizes and clear anatomical differences. Merriam-Webster, a U.S. dictionary, recognizes the non-sex-specific use of "cow" as an alternate definition, whereas Collins, a UK dictionary, does not.

Colloquially, more general non-specific terms may denote cattle when a singular form is needed. Australian, New Zealand and British farmers use the term "beast" or "cattle beast". "Bovine" is also used in Britain. The term "critter" is common in the western United States and Canada, particularly when referring to young cattle. In some areas of the American South (particularly the Appalachian region), where both dairy and beef cattle are present, an individual animal was once called a "beef critter", though that term is becoming archaic.
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Post by: Porter on November 13, 2010, 08:38:44 AM
The more I talk, the more it becomes apparent that I was correct to bring this up in the ludicrously-specific word thread.
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Post by: Porter on November 13, 2010, 08:52:23 AM
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Further, any herd of fully mature cattle in or near a pasture is statistically likely to consist mostly of cows
Around here, if you see a one or two in a field, it is likely a steer. 

There are a lot of laws in Oregon designed, in essence, to keep Oregon looking like Oregon and not turning into another California.  You can get large tax breaks on your land if you use it for "farming".  It is very common for people with a few acres in the country to fence it off and raise steer calves they buy from a local dairy.  You get the worthless (to the dairies) calves/steer for free, they're very little trouble, you save a lot on taxes, and can make a few bucks on the beef as well.
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on November 13, 2010, 09:27:15 AM
I think that those in the cattle industry (which we are not -- we raised a whole whopping 2 steer from calf this year) might simply refer to them as heads, as in "2000 heads [of cattle]".  That also does not work for our purposes, as our little farm has much more diversity, and the head count of our livestock is not the same as the number of cattle we have.

What I was trying to point out is that people in the industry call them cows, steers or heifers. I don't know any ranchers who call them heads, though they do say head of.

I think you'll probably be just fine if you call them cows.
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Post by: pooka on November 13, 2010, 09:28:23 AM
What is the Linnaean nomenclature?  

This  reminds me of the claim that such and such culture has n-hundred words for snow.  White people have a dozen words for cow, and they still aren't satisfied.

You could also refer to them by breed.  If you don't know the breed, you get to sound like a city dweller and call them cows.

Maybe you can take a cue from man/woman/human and call them hucows.  My mother likes to say things like this.  She thinks it's very clever.
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Post by: Porter on November 13, 2010, 09:33:27 AM
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I think you'll probably be just fine if you call them cows.
You underestimate my neurosis. ;)
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Post by: pooka on November 13, 2010, 09:34:06 AM
Whoa:
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Cattle did not originate as the term for bovine animals. It was borrowed from Old French catel, itself from Latin caput, head, and originally meant movable personal property, especially livestock of any kind, as opposed to real property (the land, to also include wild or small free-roaming animals such as chickens, which would be sold as part of the land).[9] The word is closely related to "chattel" (a unit of personal property) and "capital" in the economic sense.[10][11] The term replaced earlier Old English feoh "cattle, property" (cf. German: Vieh, Gothic: faihu).
  From wikipedia.
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on November 13, 2010, 09:46:56 AM
Or, what Jonathon already said ;)
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Post by: Jonathon on November 13, 2010, 09:49:05 AM
I said that?
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on November 13, 2010, 09:49:56 AM
You could also refer to them by breed.  If you don't know the breed, you get to sound like a city dweller and call them cows.

Um, country people would be far more likely to call them "cows" than to call them by their breed. Probably because all of the cattle on a given ranch are typically the same breed. (On ranches where this isn't the case, like where they raise black baldies by crossing Herefords and Black Angus, they will call them by the breed when they need to differentiate but they'll say things like "I've gotta go get the Hereford heifers in before it gets dark.")
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Post by: pooka on November 13, 2010, 09:50:07 AM
Yeah.  Jesse linked to a rather large block of text from wikipedia, which I recognized as I read further down.
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on November 13, 2010, 09:50:39 AM
I said that?

Oh, I guess it wasn't you, it was the blog you linked to.
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Post by: pooka on November 13, 2010, 09:51:41 AM
I originally posted it with "sound like a moron" but changed it to city dweller.  City dwellers don't know one type of cow from another, is my contention.
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on November 13, 2010, 10:06:48 AM
Unless they are awesome city dwellers like me with a secret sordid past in the FFA.
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Post by: The Genuine on November 13, 2010, 10:42:44 AM
Incidentally, to this day lawyers the term "chattel" all the time.  For instance, "trespass to chattel" is often used to distinguish from the more common "trespass [to land]."
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Post by: pooka on November 13, 2010, 09:46:59 PM
Why does beef mean the meat?  Is there a word for the meat of a goat? 
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Post by: Porter on November 13, 2010, 10:02:04 PM
Goat meat is sometimes called chevon, but we just call it "goat" or "goat meat".
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on November 14, 2010, 01:15:43 AM
Why does beef mean the meat?  Is there a word for the meat of a goat? 

It's because the aristocracy in England was French-speaking for so long that we developed synonym pairs for meat and animal. The words for the animals (cow, pig, sheep) came from the words the Anglo-Saxon speaking peasants, who raised the live animals, would use. Whereas, the words for the meat (beef, pork, mutton) came from the French that the nobles, who typically only dealt with animals on their plates, spoke. (Chevon is similar)

Isn't that cool?

Also, I've heard goat meat called cabrito by my Texas goat-eating kin, but that's because of the Mexican influence. Kind of like how rabbit you eat is called hasenfeffer because it's most folks of the German persuasion who eat it.
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Post by: The Genuine on November 14, 2010, 06:47:15 AM
So how do you explain the occasional difference in other languages between the animal name and the meat name?  I only know Spanish, but I suspect the distinction exists in other languages too.

Chicken:  gallina/pollo
Deer:  ciervo/venado

But, compare:

Cow:  vaca/carne (de vacuno)
Pig:  cerdo/carne (de cerdo)
Lamb:  oveja or cordero/ carne (de cordero)
Fish:  pez/pescado
Title: Re: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Porter on November 14, 2010, 07:46:17 AM
I've eaten rabbit many times, but I've only heard it called hasenfeffer in Bugs Bunny cartoons (or references to it).
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on November 14, 2010, 08:33:26 AM
Maybe that's just me with a German mom.
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on November 14, 2010, 08:36:33 AM
So how do you explain the occasional difference in other languages between the animal name and the meat name?  I only know Spanish, but I suspect the distinction exists in other languages too.

Chicken:  gallina/pollo
Deer:  ciervo/venado

But, compare:

Cow:  vaca/carne (de vacuno)
Pig:  cerdo/carne (de cerdo)
Lamb:  oveja or cordero/ carne (de cordero)
Fish:  pez/pescado

Pollo just means chicken (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollo) the animal. Gallina means hen. I don't know about deer myself, but it looks like those are words for two different animals (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venado). Most languages are pretty uniform with the "animal/meat of animal" formula.
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Post by: The Genuine on November 14, 2010, 08:51:08 AM
Hmm.  I will have to consult with my Peruvian authority on this one.
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on November 14, 2010, 09:41:17 AM
I think what is most likely is a case of different Spanishes. Like how in Mexico mantequilla is butter but manteca is lard but in Argentina manteca is butter and mantequilla is lard.
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Post by: pooka on November 15, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
I'd heard the meat/animal thing before.  I just never heard the word chevon until I read that article last week.
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Post by: Jonathon on November 15, 2010, 06:46:52 PM
It's because the aristocracy in England was French-speaking for so long that we developed synonym pairs for meat and animal. The words for the animals (cow, pig, sheep) came from the words the Anglo-Saxon speaking peasants, who raised the live animals, would use. Whereas, the words for the meat (beef, pork, mutton) came from the French that the nobles, who typically only dealt with animals on their plates, spoke. (Chevon is similar)

Isn't that cool?

I read once that this is an oversimplification and that the words didn't really settle down into their current distributions until a few centuries after the Norman conquest. Unfortunately, I don't remember where I read that, and all I can find on the subject is people repeating this same basic idea without citing anything. I'm not sure where to begin actually researching it.
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on November 15, 2010, 06:59:47 PM
I saw it on The Story of English.
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Post by: pooka on November 15, 2010, 07:10:24 PM
Is there a chance it was a class distinction thing, hence no special word for chicken meat?  Sometimes I wonder if it was a result of a parlor game, like the weird mass nouns for animals.
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on November 15, 2010, 07:11:40 PM
I think the whole argument is that it was a class distinction thing.
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Post by: Nighthawk on November 16, 2010, 12:59:36 PM
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Fish:  pez/pescado

My father has told me several times in the past that "pez" is a LIVING fish, whereas "pescado" is a dead one. I don't know if he said that only to make it easier for me to remember.
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Post by: Tante Shvester on April 28, 2011, 01:59:45 PM
I just heard that the singular of "paparazzi" is "paparazzo".  But if there's just one of them, isn't that just a guy with a camera?
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Post by: rivka on April 28, 2011, 04:21:18 PM
Sure, if he's obnoxious enough. (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/paparazzo)
Title: Re: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Porter on July 27, 2016, 02:00:46 PM
I am looking for a word for a situation that, has multiple valid, incompatible interpretations.

For example, there's the classic wire-frame cube.  Are we looking at the top and right sides of the cube, or the bottom and left sides?   Both are equally valid answers.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Or let's take the late 80's song More than Words (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrIiLvg58SY&index=18&list=RDm0nc-hh9viQ) by Exteme.  Is this a sweet song about how actions speak louder than words, or is it an icky song about "If you loved me, you'd do it with me"?  (While I agree that there's more evidence for the second interpretation, that doesn't make the first interpretation not work.)

Or the fan theory of the movie Ferris Bueller's Day Off (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091042/), which states that the character Ferris Bueller was all in Cameron's head (http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/06/why-ferris-bueller-never-existed/327276/).

So, do any of you know of a word that fits these sorts of situations?
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Post by: Tante Shvester on July 27, 2016, 02:13:07 PM
Ambiguous?
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Post by: Porter on July 27, 2016, 02:27:41 PM
I'm trying to articulate why I didn't just go with that word in the first place.  It may be that my use of ambiguous is somewhat idiomatic, but here's why I don't like it for what I'm looking for.

Let's take this other situation where person A says that they have clearly, no doubt about it, felt God's touch in their life.  Person B says that it's just their imagination.

Now, if this situation were part of a story, depending on how it's written, we could easily say that it's ambiguous whether or not it really happened.

But if this were real life, I don't like the word ambiguous.  I might say that we can't know for sure what really happened, but I wouldn't say that it's ambiguous. 

Maybe it's because, at least in my mind, ambiguity is part of communication.  Stories, songs, and diagrams can be ambiguous (as all of my examples were), but real life can't.  Real life is uncertain or unknown, but not ambiguous.

Also, this word that I'm flailing around for is a noun for such "ambiguous" situations.
Title: Re: Is there a word for that?
Post by: rivka on July 27, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
Hi, Porter!

Unverified? Subjective? (Not nouns, but I am unconvinced there is an English noun that meets your criteria.)
Title: Re: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Jonathon on July 31, 2016, 01:30:29 PM
I don't know of anything that fits better either. "Ambiguity" seems to miss the mutual incompatibility of the two interpretations, and "paradox" applies more to situations that are logically impossible.
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Post by: Porter on August 02, 2016, 07:07:01 AM
I'm currently liking the word "indeterminate", although it also doesn't convey the full sense of what I was talking about.
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Post by: Jonathon on August 02, 2016, 08:10:26 AM
Yeah, that's decent but not complete either. It seems like they're all coming at the idea from different angles, but none of them captures it completely.
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Post by: Tante Shvester on January 14, 2022, 01:03:06 PM
It would be good to have a word for anti-antisemitic.
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Post by: Jonathon on January 14, 2022, 03:23:22 PM
Yeah, "pro-Semitic" and just "Semitic" don't really have the right meaning.
Title: Re: Is there a word for that?
Post by: rivka on March 15, 2022, 10:15:54 AM
TIL that there is a word for small Roman numerals (used in lists and outlines and such): romanette.

That's cute.
Title: Re: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Brinestone on March 15, 2022, 10:53:29 AM
Is there a single adjective for "feeling a sense of belonging"?
Title: Re: Is there a word for that?
Post by: pooka on March 30, 2022, 12:05:18 AM
like the vases and pllars, of the drawing that might be a babushka or a snotty socialite.  I like the rabbit duck.  There's probably a fancy word for them.  There was this podcast about them.  Oh, yeah, hidden brain. 
https://hiddenbrain.org/podcast/both-things-can-be-true/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubin_vase
Title: Re: Is there a word for that?
Post by: Tante Shvester on March 30, 2022, 08:54:30 AM
My aunt had a big picture like that in her living room.  It looked like a woman's face if you looked at it, or it looked like a bunch of people standing around looking a a dead person if you looked at it some more.  It kind of went back and forth, and as a little kid, it freaked me the heck out.  Also, it was pretty hideous.  And enormous.
Title: Re: Is there a word for that?
Post by: rivka on June 22, 2023, 10:39:30 PM
Why we coin new terms for old feelings. (Gift link; should work for non-subscribers.) (https://wapo.st/3Njhs0d)
Title: Re: Is there a word for that?
Post by: pooka on July 01, 2023, 11:46:02 PM
My current employment was the eventual result of rage applying. 

I wonder if I will live long enough to see people thinking "asking" is a pointless gerund.  (I'm a curmudgeon about nominal "ask", but then realized I'm over 50).