GalacticCactus Forum

Forums => English & Linguistics => Topic started by: Annie Subjunctive on April 16, 2009, 10:20:20 AM

Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Annie Subjunctive on April 16, 2009, 10:20:20 AM
I still have a hard time differentiating effect and affect as verbs. I think I understand the difference when they're nouns - effect is a result. Affect isn't used as often, and it means an affectation, n'est-ce pas?

But what's the difference between effecting something and affecting something? Can affecting something cause an effect? I think they're subtle enough that spelling/grammar checks don't catch them. What's an easy way to remember the difference?
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: The Genuine on April 16, 2009, 11:04:34 AM
Effecting means you are causing/creating something.

Affecting means you are changing/altering something.

Hmm.  Can't think of a good mnemonic though.


When you are effective, you are good at doing something.

When you are affected, you are deliberately being something you're not.

Hmm.  Still, not sure how to memorize that other than by rote.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Porter on April 16, 2009, 11:12:44 AM
I remember affect (to change) and effect (the change) like this : the effect.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Jonathon on April 16, 2009, 11:39:22 AM
Unfortunately, I don't think there's an easy way to keep track of all the different meanings and forms of affect and effect.

As Jesse said, the primary meanings of each are something like "alter" and "create", respectively. But affect can also mean "to fake", as in an affectation. And then there's affect the noun, which means something else entirely.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Annie Subjunctive on April 16, 2009, 04:47:26 PM
Can anyone use each one as a verb in a sentence?
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Jonathon on April 16, 2009, 05:57:25 PM
The congressman had a proven track record of effecting change in his district.

Even though Steve had just broken her heart, she affected a smile to show that he couldn't hurt her.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Annie Subjunctive on April 16, 2009, 06:01:32 PM
Hmm. What if a teacher's aversion to risk is affecting her willingness to use new teaching methods?

Effecting? Affecting?
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Jonathon on April 16, 2009, 06:12:46 PM
Oh, I forgot that definition. Yes, that's affect. Effect as a verb only ever means "produce" or "create".
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Annie Subjunctive on April 16, 2009, 07:19:40 PM
OK. That's where I always get confused.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: rivka on April 16, 2009, 11:02:11 PM
Quote
And then there's affect the noun, which means something else entirely.
Right. That's the shrinky one. ;)
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: The Genuine on April 17, 2009, 09:58:40 AM
What's to tricky about it?  It's entirely consistent with the adjective "affected."
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: rivka on April 17, 2009, 11:36:05 AM
Not really.

His consistent lack of affect was the first clue. The pointy ears were the second . . .
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Porter on April 17, 2009, 11:58:06 AM
What does the word "affect" mean in that sentence?
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: rivka on April 17, 2009, 12:19:16 PM
Quote
Emotional affect is the term for emotional reactions that have a high probability of producing changes in awareness, facial expression, body language, physiological function, and behaviour.
(from here (http://www.affectivedesign.org/archives/30))

Or there's m-w.com's definition:
Quote
the conscious subjective aspect of an emotion considered apart from bodily changesĀ  ; also : a set of observable manifestations of a subjectively experienced emotion
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Porter on April 17, 2009, 12:43:25 PM
Dude.  And I thought I had that word down.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: rivka on April 17, 2009, 01:17:17 PM
I called it "shrinky" with malice aforethought. It really doesn't get a whole lot of use outside of psychiatry/psychology. So you'd need to know it to read a Dr. Sacks book, f'rinstance.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Annie Subjunctive on April 17, 2009, 01:43:44 PM
Quote
Dude. And I thought I had that word down.
See? It's the verbal equivalent of a tapeworm.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: pooka on May 12, 2009, 01:56:34 PM
I could give you a failproof mnemonic, but it's potentially offensive.  Consider yourselves warned.

I think it was my husband used to call the local food mart the mood fart.  This got turned into the affectation flatulation.  It's a helpful way to remember that affect = mood.  
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Annie Subjunctive on May 12, 2009, 06:26:47 PM
I am so offended.

Nay, I am SHOCKED and APPALLED.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: rivka on May 12, 2009, 06:35:32 PM
*takes note of Annie's affected affect*
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Neutros the Radioactive Dragon on May 13, 2009, 09:45:16 AM
That is an interesting effect that post produced.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Tante Shvester on December 22, 2009, 02:19:10 AM
I'm irritated that "speech" is spelled with a double "e" and "speak" is spelled with an "ea".  If it weren't for Spellcheck, I'd be making errors with these all the time.

Who's responsible for this?  And how can we get the problem fixed?  Would y'all be willing to sign a petition?  And tell me whom I should be petitioning?
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Jonathon on December 22, 2009, 11:26:54 AM
They're spelled differently because they used to be pronounced differently. After the Great Vowel Shift they ended up with the same vowel.

But what does this have to do with affect and effect?
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Tante Shvester on December 22, 2009, 01:21:52 PM
I hated to start another thread, and since "affect" and "effect" differ by an "a" and an "e", I figured it was close enough.

I guess I figured wrong.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Annie Subjunctive on December 22, 2009, 02:30:02 PM
I was actually thinking about making a post about Alf vs. Elf for the same reasons, so you're good, Shvester.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Tante Shvester on December 22, 2009, 02:59:06 PM
Quote
you're good, Shvester.
Too bad I like my current sig too much to change it.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Jonathon on December 22, 2009, 04:43:45 PM
I just don't see what's wrong with starting new threads.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: rivka on December 22, 2009, 04:56:37 PM
That's because you hate the planet.

Anti-conservationist!
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Annie Subjunctive on December 22, 2009, 08:35:04 PM
Al Gore knows about all the threads you waste.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Tante Shvester on December 22, 2009, 10:45:19 PM
I felt like I started too many of the threads on this side.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Jonathon on December 23, 2009, 08:58:18 AM
Tante, you could never start too many threads.
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: The Genuine on December 24, 2009, 04:05:04 PM
How about polls?
Title: Affect vs. Effect
Post by: Jonathon on December 24, 2009, 04:29:44 PM
You could start too many polls. ;)