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Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Lady Montagu on January 05, 2009, 12:06:41 PM
E-mail (email) is a word on the cusp. It almost, almost doesn't need a hyphen, and in many places, it doesn't have it.

The Library had a standard (e-mail), but this place doesn't, and I suspect I get to set it. I haven't decided yet. I suppose I could ask googlefight to settle it for me, but I thought I would poll y'all.  
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Zalmoxis on January 05, 2009, 12:11:52 PM
I prefer e'mail.  
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: The Genuine on January 05, 2009, 12:12:14 PM
I am apparently your first vote.  I voted e-mail.

(To me, it's kind of like a contraction, but with a hyphen.  And I don't drop the apostrophe from contractions, so why the hyphen?)
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: The Genuine on January 05, 2009, 12:12:37 PM
[size=8]g[/size]email.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Tante Shvester on January 05, 2009, 12:14:15 PM
I'm on the cutting edge.

Email.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Zalmoxis on January 05, 2009, 12:16:42 PM
What technically is the function of the hyphen in e-mail? It's a contracted, compound word, right?

That's why I said e'mail.

Wikipedia uses e-mail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail). It's what I prefer to use as well, but I have no basis for that preference.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Ajar on January 05, 2009, 12:17:30 PM
Whoops. I voted my preference (email) rather than what would be best for a non-technical audience (e-mail). Sorry.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Narnia on January 05, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
I've never ever used a hyphen.  I always write email as do most people in their corporate/education setting communications addressed to me.  
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Lady Montagu on January 05, 2009, 12:29:32 PM
There seems to be no consensus. (http://www.thefictiondesk.com/spelling-email-vs-e-mail/)

*ponders*
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Narnia on January 05, 2009, 12:31:35 PM
Just like my canceled/cancelled, traveled/travelled, labeled/labelled thing.  That drives me crazy.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: The Genuine on January 05, 2009, 12:33:39 PM
As with everything else in life, I'd just do what JonBoy would do.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: rivka on January 05, 2009, 12:45:35 PM
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As with everything else in life, I'd just do what JonBoy would do.
This is so patently false, it goes beyond the ridiculous. :P



I voted for "email" because that is definitely the trend I have been seeing, including in non-technical environments.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Noemon on January 05, 2009, 01:00:42 PM
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I voted for "email" because that is definitely the trend I have been seeing, including in non-technical environments.
Me too.


And rivka, are you arguing that Jesse isn't the very model of modern Mormon gentleman?  
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Narnia on January 05, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
What alliteration.  And nice Penzance reference. :D
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Noemon on January 05, 2009, 01:02:17 PM
:) If I were having a slower day than I am I'd have done the whole song.

[Edit - and come up with something better than "gentleman" for that stand in for "general"]
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Porter on January 05, 2009, 01:16:25 PM
Definitely email.  
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: The Genuine on January 05, 2009, 01:20:04 PM
Thats not right.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Neutros the Radioactive Dragon on January 05, 2009, 01:31:19 PM
I use both, just to keep 'em guessing.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Ela on January 05, 2009, 01:50:20 PM
I voted email.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: rivka on January 05, 2009, 02:01:56 PM
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rivka, are you arguing that Jesse isn't the very model of modern Mormon gentleman?
Precisely.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: rivka on January 05, 2009, 02:02:17 PM
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I use both, just to keep 'em guessing.
Troublemaker. :P
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Nighthawk on January 05, 2009, 02:15:33 PM
I find myself using "EMail" (note capital "M") a lot, especially when I'm doing things like naming database fields and whatnot.

I've never hyphenated it.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Farmgirl on January 05, 2009, 02:21:35 PM
I prefer e-mail because it's AP style, and I have a thing about that.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Lady Montagu on January 05, 2009, 02:27:22 PM
Chicago and the Miriam Webbstterr agree, Farmgirl.

I'm still pondering. I think I need to find out more about our audience.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: The Genuine on January 05, 2009, 02:51:25 PM
Why are you doubling up the "Webster" like that?
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Jonathon on January 05, 2009, 04:59:39 PM
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As with everything else in life, I'd just do what JonBoy would do.
Jon Boy has never had a strong preference for either form, but he definitely puts a space between Jon and Boy.

I honestly don't think it's possible to say that one form or the other is objectively better for a non-technical (or any) audience.


Also, I'm going to be an anal-retentive mod and move this thread over to the other side.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Jonathon on January 05, 2009, 05:06:46 PM
Also, I don't think a Googlefight will settle it, because it doesn't (really) distinguish between the hyphenated and unhyphenated forms. However, the Corpus of Contemporary American English (http://www.americancorpus.org/) gives 1673 hits for "email" and 18,456 for "e-mail".
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Ela on January 05, 2009, 05:42:00 PM
After I answered the poll, I read a NY Times article. They use e-mail.
(My poll response was email.)
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: The Genuine on January 05, 2009, 06:26:36 PM
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I honestly don't think it's possible to say that one form or the other is objectively better for a non-technical (or any) audience.
And here I was thinking you were a popular usage guy.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: The Genuine on January 05, 2009, 06:27:19 PM
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Also, I'm going to be an anal-retentive mod and move this thread over to the other side.
And here I was thinking you were a popular usage guy.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Jonathon on January 05, 2009, 06:58:10 PM
My beliefs are not nearly as simple as that.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Tante Shvester on January 05, 2009, 10:08:15 PM
My email server (Verizon) calls it "Email" or "email", and they ought to know.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Farmgirl on January 06, 2009, 07:42:51 AM
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After I answered the poll, I read a NY Times article. They use e-mail.
(My poll response was email.)
That's because most newspapers use AP style guidelines :)
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Tante Shvester on January 06, 2009, 08:00:39 AM
I prefer TS (Tante Shvester) style guidelines.  The punctuation goes after the quotation marks.  The object before the verb goes.  And "by" can substitute for most prepositions.

For instance, "You are so beautiful to me" is rendered, "By me you are so beautiful".
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Jonathon on January 06, 2009, 10:01:16 AM
The New York Times has its own style guide, but it's quite old-fashioned and conservative. They still use periods in most initialisms, for instance, so it's not surprising they'd opt for the hyphen.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Ela on January 06, 2009, 10:07:50 AM
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After I answered the poll, I read a NY Times article. They use e-mail.
(My poll response was email.)
That's because most newspapers use AP style guidelines :)
What Jonathon said.  
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: pooka on January 06, 2009, 09:43:29 PM
I always wrote email until I was working for the lawyer who made me write e-mail, and I asked you all, and it must have been Farmgirl who assured me that e-mail was the AP standard.  But deep down, I prefer email.  Then again, deep down I prefer "judgement".  Not all of my insticts should be trusted.
 
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: Farmgirl on January 07, 2009, 06:33:27 AM
I probably use email in chat and general informal writings to friends who don't care, just because I'm lazy.  But for official type stuff for the company, writings on the company website or more formal correspondence, I use e-mail.

I don't think there is a universal standard of any kind.
Title: E-mail or Email?
Post by: The Genuine on January 07, 2009, 11:59:04 AM
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I don't think there is a universal standard of any kind.
There will be next week.