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Title: Soda vs. Pop map
Post by: Zalmoxis on December 23, 2004, 01:28:13 PM: All I know is all you people in Utah are just wrong -- but not as wrong as all the people in the South.

The Pop vs. Soda (http://www.popvssoda.com/countystats/total-county.html) map of the U.S.
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Post by: Dinosaur Neil on December 23, 2004, 01:34:24 PM: Sweet! Just as I thought, Pop as far as NY state goes is mostly a Western NY thing.
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Post by: Trisha on December 23, 2004, 02:21:50 PM: Yup, that's interesting. The lone yellow county in Utah appears to the the most populous Salt Lake County, which would have many transplanted Utahns. Ditto the Florida coast and Chicago environs. What's really odd is where there will be an isolated, very dark red county here and there. Wonder what's up with that. And I wonder what the "other" terms are. Pepsi? Bromide? Satan's brew?

Edit: duh, why did I say Chicago? It's clearly up in Lake Michigan. But, uh... yeah. That's probably bagged milk territory anyway.
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Post by: Dinosaur Neil on December 23, 2004, 02:37:31 PM: If you go to this link (http://www.popvssoda.com/stats/ALL.html) and click on a particular place, you can see what people put in for 'other'. For what it's worth.
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Post by: Porter on December 23, 2004, 10:29:41 PM: I wonder if "soda pop" is one of the "other" names.
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Post by: beverly on December 23, 2004, 10:37:42 PM: I grew up with "soda" and then moved way on over to "pop". Then one more relocation landed me right in the middle of "coke". I thought that was the most retarded thing ever.
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Post by: Porter on December 23, 2004, 10:48:16 PM: If I thought for a while, I could come up with something more dumb.
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Post by: Lady Montagu on December 24, 2004, 03:58:31 AM: I'm firmly in the "other" category. We've always called it a soft drink.
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Post by: Sheila on December 24, 2004, 08:20:22 AM: Hobbes, have you heard anyone call it coke? Map says Lafayette's coke territory, but I only ever hear pop, or soda.
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on December 25, 2004, 12:33:46 AM: I asked a flight attendant on a plane out of Atlanta once for a pop. She and three of her colleagues were baffled and amused.

In my own defense, I grew up saying soda in Colorado and only became a pop girl in Montana.
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Post by: Uchiha Itachi on December 25, 2004, 09:00:33 PM: Do they list "soda-pop" as an alternate term anywhere? What about people that use "soda" and "pop" to mean different things? For example, those that regard soda as being carbonated drinks which are more transparent and with lighter flavoring than pop, which is brightly colored and heavily flavored. Or those that use the term "soda" to refer to cans whereas bottles are usually contain "pop". To what extent do the terms overlap? When I refer to buying "a bottle of soda", I mean that it contains minimally flavored carbonated water. When I say a can contains "pop", I mean that it tastes like some flavor of pop rocks.

Also, what of specific flavors that are never used to refer to carbonated drinks in general, such as root beer, cola, or red pop? Are these terms to be lumped together and disposed of as all meaning the same thing, along with "punch", "soft drink", and all other terms indicating some type of beverage?

I can't imagine the linguistic poverty of only using "soda" or "pop", let along having neither in my vocabulary. When I meet people that really don't know the differences between those various terms, it puzzles and saddens me. Particularly since I often know for a fact that they have more practical experience with the subject of carbonated drinks in gerneral, but aren't able to articulate or understand that experience because they lack the vocabulary.
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Post by: Trisha on December 27, 2004, 03:47:51 PM: The only degree in which I could agree that soda and pop refer to different things is in the case of club soda. I guess you really bought into that Shasta commercial that was on a bit back in the mid-80s.

This (http://www.popvssoda.com/stats/UT.html) is what's wrong with linguistic research. People are going to make stuff up. Sexquid indeed.
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Post by: Porter on December 27, 2004, 03:59:41 PM: Should we bring some sexquid for 3 king's day?
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Post by: Jonathon on December 28, 2004, 10:10:46 AM: I'm baffled by the "soda" islands in Wisconsin and Missouri/Illinois. I wonder where they come from.

And Porter, the answer is a definite yes.
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Post by: Porter on December 28, 2004, 10:28:54 AM: Huzzah!
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on December 28, 2004, 05:37:50 PM: I think the next step in this research, honestly, is to find out whether the populace wanta Fanta (http://www.fanta.com)

(http://www.fanta.com/downloads/ecard05.jpg)
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Post by: sarcasticmuppet on December 28, 2004, 08:40:20 PM: Those commercials tell me nothing except that I most definetely do NOT wanna fanta. :angry: >.<
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Post by: Porter on December 28, 2004, 09:18:20 PM: They always show Coke commercials before movies. I leaned over to Mary and said "This commercial is making me want to never drink a Coke again." Then came the Fanta commercial. I leaned over to Mary and said "I feel like drinking a Coca-Cola now."
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on December 29, 2004, 12:42:14 AM: They're rather fitting, though, for what is truly an international soda. Fanta is the world cup of soft drinks. (too bad it sucks)

If I were more in shape, and lived in a warmer climate, and was a hussy, I'd totally get some friends to be Fantanas for Halloween.
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Post by: Porter on December 29, 2004, 08:45:34 AM: Actually, I like Fanta. As a drink.
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Post by: Annie Subjunctive on December 29, 2004, 10:36:23 PM: I rank it low in my echelon of fine foreign sodas. The ones that rank high:

1. Orangina (also Aranciata)
2. Extra Poma/Siderál/Manzana Lift
3. Jarritos
4. That Japanese stuff with the marble
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Post by: Neutros the Radioactive Dragon on December 30, 2004, 08:11:22 AM: mmmm.... Japanese stuff with the marble... *droo---

*chokes*
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Post by: Porter on December 30, 2004, 08:23:54 AM: Fanta isn't a foreign soda. It's a Coke product that just happens to be more popular outside of the U.S than inside.

My #1 foreign soda is Guarana Antartica from Brasil.
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Post by: Zalmoxis on January 03, 2005, 03:50:30 PM: Orangina is great, but I just taste my new No. 1 foreign soda:

Lorina (http://www.sodaking.com/default.php?manufacturers_id=75&osCsid=bc15dbf49c916e1b7025074ea057a078)

Very good.

And, yes, I am a proud drinker of Jarritos Tutti Frutti Fruit Punch.

My favorite domestic brand -- in terms of the overall product line -- is Stewart's.
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Post by: Trisha on January 03, 2005, 04:10:09 PM: I like limonita. I like orangina also. I saw some guarana on sale at the store. Can't recall which one. Macey's?
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Post by: Porter on January 03, 2005, 05:40:17 PM: I had some the other day at Tucanos. It's just not a chorrascaria without guarana.
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Post by: Zalmoxis on January 04, 2005, 11:41:34 AM: mr. p-h:

I'm intrigued. Is there any particular brand that you recommend?
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Post by: Porter on January 04, 2005, 11:45:29 AM: There's really only one brand for guarana, and that brand is Antartica.

All other brands --- don't bother.