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Forums => English & Linguistics => Topic started by: Jonathon on February 01, 2007, 11:13:33 AM

Title: Yet another grammar poll
Post by: Jonathon on February 01, 2007, 11:13:33 AM

What say ye, O citizens of the Cactus?

Title: Yet another grammar poll
Post by: Tante Shvester on February 01, 2007, 11:53:28 AM

"Stand up and be counted" is a quote.  I'm not going to parse it as if it is not.  The whole quote stands as a unit.   So, weird as it seems, I'm going to give it my seal of approval.

Title: Yet another grammar poll
Post by: Jonathon on February 01, 2007, 11:58:17 AM

Ah. For some reason it didn't register that the speaker was working a quote into his statement (awkwardly, though). I was trying to figure out if it was an incorrect use of the subjunctive or something else.

Title: Yet another grammar poll
Post by: pooka on February 01, 2007, 12:39:30 PM

I thought it was "stand up to be counted".  "Stand up and be counted" sounds not as courageous.

Title: Yet another grammar poll
Post by: Tante Shvester on February 01, 2007, 02:10:37 PM

"And be counted" wins. (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%22stand+up+to+be+counted%22&word2=%22stand+up+and+be+counted%22)

Title: Yet another grammar poll
Post by: rivka on February 01, 2007, 07:18:24 PM

Perhaps, but not with a conditional shoved in front of it. That's atrocious.

Title: Yet another grammar poll
Post by: kojabu on February 01, 2007, 09:14:41 PM

It may be a quote, but it's wrong! :pirate: