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Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 03, 2005, 09:01:47 AM
Just wondering what your definition of several is. I need to do something for "several weeks" so yea.  
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 03, 2005, 09:04:13 AM
Several > a few
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 03, 2005, 09:04:55 AM
Right but how many?  
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 03, 2005, 09:06:14 AM
It's a few more than a few.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 03, 2005, 09:07:12 AM
But how many is a few?  
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Brinestone on November 03, 2005, 09:08:37 AM
Depends on the context. Several M&Ms might be a small handful. Several SUVs might be three or four. I would say in terms of weeks, you should expect to do whatever you're doing for no fewer than three and no more than nine weeks.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 03, 2005, 09:13:48 AM
A few less then several.  Duh. ;)
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: pooka on November 03, 2005, 09:33:20 AM
Several is 5-7 ish.  A few is generally 3 in my book.  For reasons that go into my bizarre family history, many = 2 and many many by extension = 4.  And because of our landlord on Crete, plenty = hella too much, as in "Americans pay plenty taxes".
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Jonathon on November 03, 2005, 11:22:39 AM
a couple = 2 and only 2
a few = 3 or 4
several = more than a few and less than 10


However, it depends on what's being measured and what's expected. "A few" and "several" might refer to the same quantity, but the former downplays the number while the latter emphasizes it.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 03, 2005, 11:27:36 AM
I think that several has to be less than a few of the next level.

For example, several days could be up to around 9 days, because that's still not up to a few weeks, but 20 days is not several days because that's a few weeks.  Once you're up to a few weeks, you are greater than several days.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Mr. Anderson on November 03, 2005, 02:32:09 PM
A couple is two, a few is three or four, several is five to (about) seven, and many is beyond that.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: pooka on November 03, 2005, 02:55:55 PM
Porter has an excellent point.  It applies to ounces and cups as well.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 03, 2005, 03:42:01 PM
Yup.   15 ounces is still just several ounces.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Teshi on November 03, 2005, 06:09:43 PM
Several = about seven.
A few = two or three
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: rivka on November 03, 2005, 06:42:53 PM
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Yup.   15 ounces is still just several ounces.
???

OH! You mean weight, not volume.

couple = 2
coupla = 2-3 (my dad is from Brooklyn :P )
few = 3-5
several =3-7, usually; but Brinestone is right about context

If someone told me they were going away for several weeks, I would expect that to mean 4-5 or so.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: pooka on November 03, 2005, 06:43:17 PM
No, fifteen ounces is a Lawyer's pint.  Unless you are talking about net weight and not fluid ounces.  Also, if you've had a baby you count every darn ounce like it was gold.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 03, 2005, 06:58:57 PM
So it looks like my cartiledge piercing will need to be salted for at least 2-3 more weeks to make this a nice round "several." (it's already been three)
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 03, 2005, 07:32:22 PM
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If someone told me they were going away for several weeks, I would expect that to mean 4-5 or so.
That fits right with my theory. :cool:
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Samarkand on November 15, 2005, 01:16:28 AM
Good Lord, I've been sucked into another forum.

A couple = 2.
A few = 3-4.
Several = 4-5.

And I could make further comments regarding many and lots in terms of trolls in Terry Pratchett, but anyone reading this either already got it or is way lost.

Regarding the fact that you were told to soak your cartilage for "several" weeks:  I suggest that you do salt water soaks until it doesn't hurt.  And should it hurt again, even a year or two later, do some more salt water soaks.  I speak from experience.  My poor little double-pierced ear would appreciate one right about now (about a year and a couple months since it was pierced), but I'm too tired to lie on the floor with my ear in hot salty water.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 15, 2005, 07:54:01 AM
They told me to use a cotton ball for it...  
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: pooka on November 15, 2005, 08:29:11 AM
Why am I imagining you with a bone through your nose?
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 15, 2005, 08:42:00 AM
Me? Because I'm a cannibal?

:pirate: <---wishes it were a cannibal
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: pooka on November 15, 2005, 08:57:03 AM
You'd also need a necklace with cat claws dangling from it.  And a topknot.  Big round earrings too.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Brinestone on November 15, 2005, 09:04:54 AM
Not cat claws. Lion claws.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: sarcasticmuppet on November 15, 2005, 09:10:26 AM
or shark teeth.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 15, 2005, 09:12:32 AM
No.  Having shark teeth isn't impressive.  Sharks shed their teeth for anybody to pick up.

 
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: sarcasticmuppet on November 15, 2005, 09:14:59 AM
yeah they shed their teeth -- In your surfboard!!!
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Brinestone on November 15, 2005, 09:18:06 AM
Or your leg!
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: sarcasticmuppet on November 15, 2005, 09:19:06 AM
Or your nose!
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: pooka on November 15, 2005, 09:21:48 AM
Well, by cat claws I was thinking a big cat.  Like a tiger.  Tigers tend to be bigger than Lions.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 15, 2005, 09:43:15 AM
Or the beach.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Jonathon on November 15, 2005, 09:49:51 AM
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No.  Having shark teeth isn't impressive.  Sharks shed their teeth for anybody to pick up.
What if she ripped the teeth out of its mouth with while killing it with her bare hands?
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 15, 2005, 09:50:50 AM
I'd still assume she picked them up off the beach.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 15, 2005, 01:10:11 PM
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I'd still assume she picked them up off the beach.
You dare doubt the awesome power of the spikey hair!?
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 15, 2005, 01:11:53 PM
Pshaw.  You look like that far-too-pretty actress* that they chose to play Hermione.  I fear you not at all.

*not too pretty to exist, but she's too pretty to play Hermione
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 15, 2005, 02:06:27 PM
Now that the game is over, I can revert to my previous avatar.

Take that spikey hair now!
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 15, 2005, 02:08:54 PM
I tremble with lack of fear.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 15, 2005, 02:09:18 PM
You best be shaking in your boots.  
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 15, 2005, 02:09:57 PM
Well, I guess this is yet another thing that I do incorrectly.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 15, 2005, 02:11:17 PM
Socks then?
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: sarcasticmuppet on November 15, 2005, 04:06:59 PM
so long as they're in sandals...:puke:
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 15, 2005, 04:15:25 PM
Maybe socks.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 15, 2005, 06:57:21 PM
Good, glad to hear it.  
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 15, 2005, 07:32:29 PM
I said MAYBE!!! :pirate:
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 15, 2005, 09:42:21 PM
Hm, maybe means yes in this circumstance. The :fear: says so.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Porter on November 15, 2005, 09:46:56 PM
In that case, NO, never. :P
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Brinestone on November 16, 2005, 06:55:04 AM
"It seems to me that maybe pretty much always means no."
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: pooka on November 16, 2005, 07:03:04 AM
I thought "I'm disinclined to accept your proposal" means no. :pirate:

And my daughter just made me read the article on bird flu and it said several people had died and I asked her how many was several, and she said "seven".  though later it referred to several asian countries, and there were nine listed.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Mr. Anderson on November 16, 2005, 09:15:18 AM
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"It seems to me that maybe pretty much always means no."
It's true.  I think back on my childhood whenever I asked my parents for something and they'd say, "maybe later."  Whatever I asked for never happened. :(
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: kojabu on November 16, 2005, 10:06:24 AM
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"It seems to me that maybe pretty much always means no."
It's true.  I think back on my childhood whenever I asked my parents for something and they'd say, "maybe later."  Whatever I asked for never happened. :(
My dad told me the following:

"Whenever your mother asks you to do something that you don't want to do, say maybe so she'll be happy."

And then I say maybe and proceed to forget about whatever it was she asked me to do.  
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: pooka on November 16, 2005, 10:51:58 AM
Oooh, it will not be a pretty day if one of my kids gives me a "maybe".  Of course, they are only 17 if you add up all their ages at this point.  

What I say is "not right now" and my kids very often ask me something and I sigh and they say "I know, not right now."  I feel bad that their expectations are actually very modest for working class American kids.  Though Dad still manages to go crazy every Christmas.

The last couple of years I've tried to get Christmas squared away early to avoid last minute sprees.  This year I'm not buying anything because I know it won't prevent the last minute spree.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: Mr. Anderson on November 16, 2005, 02:10:54 PM
Hide the cash, checkbook, and credit cards.
Title: Quantify Several
Post by: pooka on November 16, 2005, 02:19:08 PM
um, nevermind.